LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks

Well, I wouldn't say no chance, I'd just say it's unlikely. There have been exceptions to what you say when difference makers have been available.

Adalius was the top FA available, Belichick deemed him a great fit and went after him aggressively. When Peppers was available, word was that the Patriots were in on him. Not enough to land him but in on him nonetheless. Williams is the same kind of talent those guys were, and he's 3 years younger. It's also getting later in the game for Belichick and Brady and I wonder if that causes Belichick to be a little more aggressive.

But if not Mario, they should still be able to put together a pretty solid pass rush still. It's a good class with Mario/Carter/Anderson as well as potentially Cliff Avril, Robert Mathis, John Abraham and rumors of Dwight Freeney being available through trade.

makoute

Do not say that too loud, you will be run out of this place, when the fact is that Brady has NEVER been good at throwing the ball deep, and that has been the case since he came into this league.

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ivanvamp

How about that deep ball to Branch against the Broncos in the divisional round? That was a laser right on target.

Brady has *never* been a tremendously accurate deep thrower. But it's not like he hasn't hit some.

upstater1

He must have forgotten how to do those things then, because about 6 or 7 or 8 years ago he had a great long ball, and threw to the sidelines often, and had great touch. How soon we forget. When Patten and Givens were around, they had great sideline patterns. When Moss was around, he threw downfield.

People think Eli has more touch on long throws? Watch the great Manningham catch again, watch him running. You think he ran at a dead spring? No. He slowed down, adjusted to the ball, timed it perfectly. Something that Patriots receivers cannot do. You really think Manning fit that into a one foot window? I give Eli a lot of credit for the game yesterday, but Manningham deserved 98% of the credit for that catch. Watch him slow down and adjust.

Remix 6

Well for FA / Draft we need:

1. Big play WR [Top FA: Dwayne Bowe, Pierre Garcon, Mario Manningham, Vincent Jackson, DeSean Jackson, Robert Meachem, Mike Wallace (RFA) ]


2. Lockdown CB [Top FA: Carlos Rogers, Cortland Finnegan, Tracy Porter , Ladarius Webb (RFA)]


3. Young pass rushers [Top DE FA: John Abraham, Cliff Avril, Adam Carriker, Robert Mathis, Jeremy Mincey]


There are plenty of good WRs but I think our priority is to resign Welker. Bowe is a big physical WR as is Vincent Jackson but that'll cost a lot. DeSean is overrated, Mike Wallace is someone I would honestly give up a 1st and a 3rd if thats what it took. It is a late 1st and we have another one as we have 2 second rounders as well. Meachem is injury prone but comes from a big / complex offense while Garcon makes some dumb plays at times but also makes some big ones. Manningham torched us and I dont see him getting paid enough in NY so he is a possibility. Question is can some of these guys come in and contribute in a timing offense?

These CB's will probably cost a lot of money and Webb is an RFA. Porter and Finnegan aren't really lock down so I wouldn't overpay. I'd take Bodden back if his back is all healed up and if he is willing to come back.

The DE's I mentioned, some of them are older towards end of career but can still contribute. I'd rather resign Anderson & Carter if possible but we need either a starter or a young talent on the outside that we can develop. Cliff Avril would be nice but that is going to be costly. The draft certainly has some explosive pass rushers that we should target.

Some OLB pass rushers can also fit in if we stick with a 3-4 and it'd be names like Manny Lawson, Quentin Groves, Anthony Spencer and Mario Williams. These guys are younger than the DE options I listed but essentially play the same spots. Mario Williams is a dream scenario as a DE or OLB while the other guys are solid rushers but not elite.

serifyn

you mean the one where branch had to stop and elbow push his cb off in order to catch the ball?

look bro, i love Tom Brady and i think hes the best. but people here want to build a team around Tom Brady likes hes 2007 Tom Brady and it isn't going to work.

Sivy

I think it had a little something to do with Brady breaking his Knee the year after. They had a cake schedule, and the same team form 07.

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SeymourTrophies

He was in love with Adalius, so he went and got him. It just depends on how BB sees things. Does BB think Mario Williams is one of the pieces? It's hard to say when there are so many pieces missing (the secondary).

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tatepatsfan

I wonder what the Ravens will tender Webb at. I knew what the rules for tendering RFAs were under the old cap, but not sure what (if any) changes there were. No way we give up a first for him, but he was only a 3rd rounder. If they go anything less than a first, I'd say we have to make a move for him.

TommyBrady12

this is exactly what i'm talking about. weird stuff like this happens. even though the roster may be the same, injuries do occur and stuff like this for whatever reason always haunts the super bowl loser. look at pittsburgh from last year - still the same roster, but freak injuries to roethlisberger and other players really killed them.

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