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Old 02-02-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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Wow, a bunch of stat heads who are confident in their system basically admit they have no idea how to size up this game.
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All that statistical masturbation, which they say favors the Patriots, and then they conclude the Giants win in a squeaker?
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All that statistical masturbation, which they say favors the Patriots, and then they conclude the Giants win in a squeaker?
I prefer the discipline index Parcells champions.

Still had some useful statistical information that isn't found publicly anywhere else.

At least at FO they are writing about football. Not sure what the NY tabloids are gossiping about.
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It's refreshing to see someone actually analyze available information to try and draw a conclusion. All I've seen or heard for ten days is superficial sound bites based on a meaningless stat or an irrelevant ranking. Essentially people have been doing just the opposite of what FO set out to do: they made an opinion and then looked for a stat, ranking or piece of information to justify it.


The original consensus, before the New York papers and world wide leader started spouting off was that these were two very evenly matched teams, each with strengths and weaknesses that meant that the game could easily go either way. That opinion has been drowned out by all the noise emanating from New Jersey. Schatz gets a bit flip-floppy and wishy-washy with his conclusion, but basically what he is saying is that it's his opinion that it is too close to have a strong conviction in the outcome. At least he came up with a good reason to take that position.
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The basic theme is that stats over the full season favor the Patriots, but the Giants have strongly been opposing those stats the last few weeks. In addition, strong X-factors such as the Gronk injury and healthy situation along with the sudden strong defensive play from both teams play into the decision. It's not outside of logic to stray from season stats when you have one of the best players on a team hurt and two teams playing much differently (and better) than they have all year. As a Giants fan that isn't buying into the media hype, I think any person looking at this game from a neutral perspective should basically look at it as a coin toss and not an easy game to read.
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All that statistical masturbation, which they say favors the Patriots, and then they conclude the Giants win in a squeaker?
This makes no sense. They keep talking about the Giants front four... but they dont mention the Pats O-Line (the best in the league). Also, the amount of games they took for analysis is casually during the Giants winning streak. Why instead of 5 games they don't take 10? Or 8 or 6... very convenient.

Still as Tune says numbers gives the edge to the Pats, FO picks the Giants.

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Interesting read, thanks for posting.

CHFF has a good read on the Pats D:

The Curious Case of the New England defense | Cold Hard Football Facts

A Couple of other good articles there also.

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The basic theme is that stats over the full season favor the Patriots, but the Giants have strongly been opposing those stats the last few weeks. In addition, strong X-factors such as the Gronk injury and healthy situation along with the sudden strong defensive play from both teams play into the decision. It's not outside of logic to stray from season stats when you have one of the best players on a team hurt and two teams playing much differently (and better) than they have all year. As a Giants fan that isn't buying into the media hype, I think any person looking at this game from a neutral perspective should basically look at it as a coin toss and not an easy game to read.
Where all this statistical analysis falls short is in failing to quantify the Myra Factor, the Giants Gumflapping Factor, the Eli Goober Factor, and the Moronic New York Tabloids Factor.
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