Ochocinco Gives Reason Why He Has Become OchoStinko - New England Patriots Forums

***reflexblue*** · 02-02-2012, 04:15 AM

Don't know if this is old news or not, but Ocho admits that the reason he hasn't played much isn't because hes lost it, its because he just doesn't understand the system well enough to play without thinking about it. Whcih slows him down. I know that theory has been kicked around, but this validates it.

Ochocinco finds himself in odd place as Patriots strive for Super Bowl win - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The answer is fairly simple. By Ochocinco’s own admission, he doesn’t know the offense well enough to play without thinking, particularly when New England goes to its hurry-up attack. Instead of simply reacting to situations, he’s going through the steps in his head and that makes him a step too slow.

After reading this i had a thought. Given that Gronk won't be 100% could BB throw in a few Ocho friendly plays, plays like he ran in Cinncy. It would catch the Giants off guard.

stcjones · 02-02-2012, 05:17 AM

Don't you think BB would have known that about him before spending 6 mil and tying up a roster spot on him? It seems to me that BB only goes after the guys with great football minds that can pick things up quickly, adjust on the fly, and be MULTI dimensional and do many things for the team. Surely he knew that chad was not one of those guys and was always a "alright chad run to the Apple tree and cut to your right" kind of guys! I had hoped he would catch on here....he** I would put gravy on my hat and eat it if chad catches two TDs and leads this team to victory....just don't see him making it...

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

Don't know if this is old news or not, but Ocho admits that the reason he ha

sn't played much isn't because hes lost it, its because he just doesn't understand the system well enough to play without thinking about it. Whcih slows him down. I know that theory has been kicked around, but this validates it.

Ochocinco finds himself in odd place as Patriots strive for Super Bowl win - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The answer is fairly simple. By Ochocinco’s own admission, he doesn’t know the offense well enough to play without thinking, particularly when New England goes to its hurry-up attack. Instead of simply reacting to situations, he’s going through the steps in his head and that makes him a step too slow.

After reading this i had a thought. Given that Gronk won't be 100% could BB throw in a few Ocho friendly plays, plays like he ran in Cinncy. It would catch the Giants off guard.

***reflexblue*** · 02-02-2012, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stcjones

Don't you think BB would have known that about him before spending 6 mil and tying up a roster spot on him? It seems to me that BB only goes after the guys with great football minds that can pick things up quickly, adjust on the fly, and be MULTI dimensional and do many things for the team. Surely he knew that chad was not one of those guys and was always a "alright chad run to the Apple tree and cut to your right" kind of guys! I had hoped he would catch on here....he** I would put gravy on my hat and eat it if chad catches two TDs and leads this team to victory....just don't see him making it...

Don't attack the messenger, and besides early in the season they're was speculation that Ocho was having a hard time picking up the system. Maybe BB underestimated CO's ability.

Bostonian1962 · 02-02-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

Don't know if this is old news or not, but Ocho admits that the reason he hasn't played much isn't because hes lost it, its because he just doesn't understand the system well enough to play without thinking about it. Whcih slows him down. I know that theory has been kicked around, but this validates it.

Ochocinco finds himself in odd place as Patriots strive for Super Bowl win - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The answer is fairly simple. By Ochocinco’s own admission, he doesn’t know the offense well enough to play without thinking, particularly when New England goes to its hurry-up attack. Instead of simply reacting to situations, he’s going through the steps in his head and that makes him a step too slow.

After reading this i had a thought. Given that Gronk won't be 100% could BB throw in a few Ocho friendly plays, plays like he ran in Cinncy. It would catch the Giants off guard.

Admitting that he's unable to learn the plays, after hundreds of combined practices and games can't make him the brightest bulb on the tree! He's either lazy and doesn't put in the time needed to learn it, or he's dumb as a rock.

Va_Pats_Fan · 02-02-2012, 06:15 AM

I think CO's time of reckoning will be next years training camp. If he hasn't shown improvement by then, we'll see him gone.

Hopefully an off season and OTA's will be enough for him to get it.

***NEGoldenAge*** · 02-02-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bostonian1962

Admitting that he's unable to learn the plays, after hundreds of combined practices and games can't make him the brightest bulb on the tree! He's either lazy and doesn't put in the time needed to learn it, or he's dumb as a rock.

You don't understand. He's not saying he can't learn the plays. He's having trouble processing all the reads and adjustments at game speed that the Pats O demands. Knowledgabe Pats fans have known this for quite some time.

Potstickas · 02-02-2012, 06:30 AM

I love the guy and will be rooting for him, but if Ocho thinks it's hard to beat out Branch, wait until he needs to beat out B.Lloyd to get on the field.

PatsFanSince74 · 02-02-2012, 06:35 AM

I think he's going to make a big play on Sunday. Maybe even worth the six mill.

PatsFanSince74 · 02-02-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Va_Pats_Fan

I think CO's time of reckoning will be next years training camp. If he hasn't shown improvement by then, we'll see him gone.

Hopefully an off season and OTA's will be enough for him to get it.

Why is your sig upside down?

***goheels22002*** · 02-02-2012, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bostonian1962

Admitting that he's unable to learn the plays, after hundreds of combined practices and games can't make him the brightest bulb on the tree! He's either lazy and doesn't put in the time needed to learn it, or he's dumb as a rock.

Not really. The system doesn't fit him. It's just the type of athlete that he is. Ochocinco is like Manny Ramirez - see it, hit it. Ramirez worked hard and did what he had to to keep his edge. Ocho's worked hard here, too, but he's not Welker or Branch. This system does not rely on guys just being more physically gifted than everybody else.

Belichick thought he was signing a guy like Moss who was both, but he missed on this guy. We've seen lots of receivers come and go like this. OC's downfall was his foolish attention-getting behavior. It's great to see a guy accept a little humility and being grateful for what he's learned.

He'll be released next week. Buena suerte, Ochenta y Cinco.