Antrel Rolle: We'll Shut Down the Tight Ends, reveals Giants Game Strategy - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

upstater1 · 02-01-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackson 2

Last week I made the observation here that there's no difference between the Jets and Giants when it comes to yapping. At Media Day yesterday, a reporter offered the same opinion to Tuck, who was clearly put off. He shouldn't have been, because it's the truth. In fact, they might be worse than the Jets in that regard.

Tuck was put off because he's thoughtful and actually has some class, unlike a number of his teammates. I'm not surprised that Tuck was put off.

upstater1 · 02-01-2012, 10:50 AM

Is it just me or does hitting Gronk at the line just sound like a dumb strategy. He's fast but not that fast, you can contain him in many ways. The last thing I want to do is get into his body so he can toss me aside like a rag doll, catch a pass and run 15 yards. I mean, TEs are not allowed to push off 10 yards downfield, and that's why you try to beat them to the spot. If you engage Gronk in the first 5 yards, you're just asking to be sloughed aside.

***BradyFTW!*** · 02-01-2012, 10:57 AM

Good luck jamming Gronk, Antrel.

Fixit · 02-01-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

It would be funny if they tried Rolle.

I was watching NFLN this morning and they were rehashing the "worst defense ever to play in the Super Bowl" stuff. They showed a chart showing the "worst," by yards allowed of course.

Guess what: If the Patriots weren't in the Super Bowl, the 2011 GIANTS would have the distinction of "worst defense ever in the Super Bowl." Instead, they're "second worst." It was right there in the chart — and no one on the set mentioned it.

It's this crap that drives me nuts. I have a guy at work (nice enough guy, for a Giants fan), who actually said that "points don't matter" when evaluating a defense, because I pointed out that the Pats were four spots worse in yardage allowed, but 3.6 points/game better. He also said the regular season doesn't matter when evaluating a team.

Somehow, the Giants have morphed from a 7-7 team with a coach about to get canned, a bottom third defense in pts. allowed, the worst running game in the league, and a damn MINUS 6 point differential into the presumptive favorite that doesn't have any holes and has all the momentum (even though the Pats have won ten straight).

Makes...head...hurt...

strngplyr · 02-01-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixit

It's this crap that drives me nuts. I have a guy at work (nice enough guy, for a Giants fan), who actually said that "points don't matter" when evaluating a defense, because I pointed out that the Pats were four spots worse in yardage allowed, but 3.6 points/game better. He also said the regular season doesn't matter when evaluating a team.

Somehow, the Giants have morphed from a 7-7 team with a coach about to get canned, a bottom third defense in pts. allowed, the worst running game in the league, and a damn MINUS 6 point differential into the presumptive favorite that doesn't have any holes and has all the momentum (even though the Pats have won ten straight).

Makes...head...hurt...

I have a similar friend who will argue until she's out of breath that the Giants are better because the "experts on tv" said so.

She doesn't like when I tell her that they purposely create controversy because TV is about ratings, not necessarily the truth.

***rojo8401*** · 02-01-2012, 11:22 AM

In related news, George Armstrong Custer is confident that Sitting Bull will be back on the reservation by autumn (latest).

PushnPencils · 02-01-2012, 11:24 AM

Guys like Rolle annoy me because so little of the Giants' success has anything to do with his contributions.

He's in the bottom half amongst DBs in this league.

SeymourTrophies · 02-01-2012, 11:32 AM

Yeah, the reason a good receiving TE is incredibly difficult to defend is that you can't jam them like you can most receivers who roam the middle. Ask Ryan Kerrigan how easy it is to jam Gronk at the line. Hernandez is almost as strong and has the moves of the best WRs out there. Come out and run the ball, make them flinch against play action, and hope the defense doesn't leak like a sieve.

seven · 02-01-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Is it just me or does hitting Gronk at the line just sound like a dumb strategy. He's fast but not that fast, you can contain him in many ways. The last thing I want to do is get into his body so he can toss me aside like a rag doll, catch a pass and run 15 yards. I mean, TEs are not allowed to push off 10 yards downfield, and that's why you try to beat them to the spot. If you engage Gronk in the first 5 yards, you're just asking to be sloughed aside.

This has to come with pressure on Tom to blow the short route timing.
Trying to bump these two TEs
will just put the dude on his heels, or back.

If Tom is clear, the spot cleared left or right of the
bump is open for a reception, as you say.

3 seconds. looking forward to the no huddle/shotgun/quick release.
D has barely enough time to read pass/run before the ball is delivered.
Will tire and mess up the Gmen's personnel, for the fun mismatches.

Silver,Blue&Red · 02-01-2012, 11:34 AM

Thats funny. If I was him I'd be worried about Gronk stomping him. Why doesnt he ask Suggs about that stategy.