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Old 01-29-2012, 01:50 PM   #41
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We'll have to see how it works out with Gronk. I expect they'll try to determine how much he can use his ankle. Though it might loosen up as the game goes on and I hope his father was planting misinformation. Low probability on both, but we won't know until game time no matter what the experts theorize.

I say we remain balanced, try our thing and adapt to whatever the Giants are giving us. I expect this time adjustments to be made on the fly and this team will definitely respond.

Both teams seem mentally tough, so I'd really like to get up on them and keep the foot on the gas (I don't ask for much).
At worst gronk becomes an extra blocker for most of the game against that giants pass rush.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #42
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good article. if the redskins can do it.....
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I gave you facts, you gave opinion.

The last two times these two teams played the Pats P-R ratio has been 48-16 and 49-24.

The Pats lost both times.

The Giants have a great pass-rushing DL and are mediocre against the run.

Keep believing what you want, Mr. Martz.
I just gave you a bunch of facts on the previous post showing what happened series by series in the first half. When they passed, they moved the ball. When they ran, they sputtered.

Look it up yourself.

How can you call it opinion when it is a FACTUAL account of the 1st half series?

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Relevance to SB 46: ZERO.
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Something tells me the Patriots are going to win. Come on, don't let my intuitions down!
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Patriots tried to run the ball at the Giants in the game this year, and were getting stoned. If you guess right that the Patriots are going to run, it's the best formula for keeping Brady off the field. Put Brady in 2 and 8s and 3 and 7s because you're selling out in the run early, and it'll be late 2nd quarter before the Patriots figure it out.

I think they need a running back there, but they should use small dump offs to the RB to set up the run later on. Come out balanced.

Then you can pick your spots for running it at the Giants. When the Giants bring their bigs in to stop your run, that's when you have them. At that point, it's no huddle all the way.
The Patriots ran the ball with 4.4 yard average first time out. Plenty good to keep the Giants honest up front. My bet is that the balance is better than the first game and that you'll see at least two end arounds or Hernandez rushing plays in each half to keep them guessing.

Your point about long 2nd and 3rd downs is just plain wrong. Tom Brady averaged 8.6 yards per passing attempt this year, and a stunning 13.1 yards per completion. 2nd and 8s and 3rd and 7s are another day at the office for this offense.

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Sigh.

I said "coming out running the ball." You took my post completely out of context.

The mistake was running it for little success in the first half when the defenses are typically stout.

Don't believe me?

Go back and look at the game:

Series #1: Ran the ball 3 times, punted after 4 plays.

Series #2: Ran the ball twice for a 3-and-out.

Series #3: Started passing the ball finally. 2 runs out of 8 plays, just 2 runs for 7 yards, the series gained 63 yards total.

Series #4: back to the run, 2 runs for 4 yards, 5 plays. Out.

Series #5: Mostly passing. 3 runs for 11 yards, 3 runs out of 12 plays. Total of 83 yards. Missed FG.

Halftime points scored: ZERO.
You aren't fooling anyone. That loss had absolutely nothing to do with the way we were running the ball.
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