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Old 01-25-2012, 03:15 PM   #21
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What I don't understand is how are the Patriots favored? Its crazy. I hope we win but Brady will have to have an A+ game. Meaning more than two punts, otherwise it will be a loooooooong day.

I am just curious, are the Giants fans nervous or mostly confident?
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:25 PM   #22
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If you asked the vast majority of Patriots fans in 2007 if they would have preferred a Super Bowl victory with multiple losses to an undefeated season with the chance of winning a Super Bowl at the end, they would have taken the SB victory. I know because I was here and there was a poll asking precisely that.

I agree with you that it won't be revenge but on the other hand, a SB victory here salves the wound, and the wound wasn't about lost perfection, it was about a lost Super Bowl.
As true as most of us would have traded the 18-0 start with a 16-3 championship, I can't help but be pleased with the season overall. We were the best team for 18 weeks of a 19 week season, shattered records, and had a blast. As much as losing one tough, close game sucked, it was an incredibly fun ride. Anyone who argues that losing the Superbowl somehow completely makes that 18 game ride pointless doesn't understand the point of life. Only 1 team wins the superbowl every year, just because you aren't that team doesn't mean you can't enjoy the other 18 possible games.

I look back on the '07 team with a lot of respect, great memories, and joy. Yes, the end result sucked, but the good FAR outweighs the bad. For all those who just can't handle the "yeah, but 18-1", "you lost", etc etc, grow a pair. It's life. They had the guts to go for immortality and came INCHES from doing the impossible. I'm proud of that team, regardless of the outcome and what others might say. They didn't choke. You know who choked? The '11 Green Bay Packers. They are lucky they lost to the Chiefs.
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What I don't understand is how are the Patriots favored? Its crazy. I hope we win but Brady will have to have an A+ game. Meaning more than two punts, otherwise it will be a loooooooong day.

I am just curious, are the Giants fans nervous or mostly confident?
Pats were much better in the regular season both on offense, defense, and results.
Pats have been just as good in the playoffs.
Pats have the better QB.
Pats have the better coach.
People forget Brady had a monster game against the Broncos just 2 weeks ago and didn't play as poorly as people want to believe last Sunday, not to mention the fact that he ALWAYS has trouble with the Ravens. He DOESNT have trouble with the Giants. He's put up points and had great games against them before and their defense isn't as good right now as it has been in the past. Superbowl 42 was a complete breakdown of the offensive line and we still were inches from winning the game. That was also a completely different Giants team vs a different Pats team and the Giants defense is NOWHERE near as good now as it was then.
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What I don't understand is how are the Patriots favored? Its crazy. I hope we win but Brady will have to have an A+ game. Meaning more than two punts, otherwise it will be a loooooooong day.

I am just curious, are the Giants fans nervous or mostly confident?
Because they are the better overall team on all sides? Defense, offense, special teams? They have outscored their opponents by a crazy amount of points. They are consistent. Have now a 17-3 record. They have faced a tough team that ALSO played them tough, making very few mistakes, with the exception of the missed FG, and Pats beat them despite a - turnover margin.

The Giants are also playing well, but their opponents looked nothing like their regular season counterparts. They are actually the ones that turn out to be the untested team going into the Super Bowl, despite them playing what everyone expected to be the tougher opponents in the playoffs.

The Ravens, oth, looked exactly like the regular season Ravens. The Ravens made two costly mistakes. An interception by Flacco and the missed FG. Outside of that they played a very good game.

The 49ers, GB, and Atlanta....like chickens running with their heads cut off out there. Watch the lowlights, not just the highlights.

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If the Super Bowl was this week the Giants would have had another advantage....

Gronkowski would most likely have been out for the game.....I doubt his ankle would have been ready for Sunday and that would make the Giants secondary relax much easier.

Gronkowski's availability to me is the biggest 'hurt' the Giants will have by having this week off
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Because they are the better overall team on all sides? Defense, offense, special teams?They have outscored their opponents by a crazy amount of points. They are consistent. Have now a 17-3 record. They have faced a tough team that ALSO played them tough, making very few mistakes, with the exception of the missed FG, and Pats beat them despite a - turnover margin.

The Giants are also playing well, but their opponents looked nothing like their regular season counterparts. They are actually the ones that turn out to be the untested team going into the Super Bowl, despite them playing what everyone expected to be the tougher opponents in the playoffs.

The Ravens, oth, looked exactly like the regular season Ravens. The Ravens made two costly mistakes. An interception by Flacco and the missed FG. Outside of that they played a very good game.

The 49ers, GB, and Atlanta....like chickens running with their heads cut off out there. Watch the lowlights, not just the highlights.
The Patriots are better on defense?.....Give me some of that stuff you are smoking
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Because they are the better overall team on all sides? Defense, offense, special teams? They have outscored their opponents by a crazy amount of points. They are consistent. Have now a 17-3 record. They have faced a tough team that ALSO played them tough, making very few mistakes, with the exception of the missed FG, and Pats beat them despite a - turnover margin.

The Giants are also playing well, but their opponents looked nothing like their regular season counterparts. They are actually the ones that turn out to be the untested team going into the Super Bowl, despite them playing what everyone expected to be the tougher opponents in the playoffs.

The Ravens, oth, looked exactly like the regular season Ravens. The Ravens made two costly mistakes. An interception by Flacco and the missed FG. Outside of that they played a very good game.

The 49ers, GB, and Atlanta....like chickens running with their heads cut off out there. Watch the lowlights, not just the highlights.
I feel better, thanks.

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The Giants smoked Atlanta, which I get. But they also smoked a very good GB squad. They are hot at the right time. Does their secondary stink? Please say "YES".
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The Giants smoked Atlanta, which I get. But they also smoked a very good GB squad. They are hot at the right time. Does their secondary stink? Please say "YES".
Listen. The Giants are more lucky than good.

They played a GB team who was completely inept all season defensively. Worse than even the Pats.

Their QB had TWO WEEKS off. And he played like it. That's why smart coaches don't sit their QB's before the playoffs. Because he was COMPLETELY out of rhythm.

Then they beat a 49'ers team who couldn't score points to save their LIVES...despite that, they were in PRIME position to win that game. Until Williams gaffs not once, but twice...in plays that didn't even INVOLVE a Giants player.

You give the ball to ANY offense on the ten yard line, up by 10, and you're going to lose.

Giants haven't proved ANYTHING to me personally, other than they are luckier than ANYTHING. It's the luck that terrifies me.

All things the same, the Pats SHOULD win this game, but I have an eerie feeling that luck is going to play into this game far more than I'd like.
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I don't understand the premise. What momentum?

The Giants are on about as little of a roll as you can possibly be going into the Super Bowl, given the fact that to get there you need to win 2-3 straight games against elite opponents. They couldn't move the ball to save their lives last week. Their second half scoring drives both started within the opponents' 30 yard line, and it wasn't even because their defense was creating turnovers, but because the opponents backup kick returner couldn't hold onto the ball. They scored on a quick strike on one of the drives, and the other time they didn't need to move the ball and so took the game-winning field goal. Out of the TEN other offensive drives after half time, they scored ZERO points. How is this momentum? How is this Manning being "elite" and being "clutch" in the fourth quarter? I don't think momentum having backup special teams players make catastrophic mistakes is the type of momentum people usually talk about.

Their defense was playing lights out though, I'll concede that.
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