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Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
The more I think about this game the more I think it's key to target and exploit both Ed Reed and Ray Lewis. Welcome to bizarro world. I can't believe I'm thinking this but I see major vulnerabilities in the two best players at their respective position of their generation.
It's pretty clear to me that Ray Lewis, one of my favorite players ever (hence the 52), has not lost a step. He has lost two steps. He can't sidestep blocks like he used to, and this has greatly hurt his shed game. His anticipation is still there, his tenacity is still there, but he physically has dropped off dramatically. I see him as being easily exploited in the wham game because if Gronk can earhole Ngata I think the back can beat Lewis. I think Connoly and the guards can reach and seal him easily. I'm focusing a lot on his run fits because I think at this stage he is exclusively a run defender. I also think that the Ravens will try to force the Pats to run with lighter sets and six man boxes. I anticipate a gameplan with a lot of check with me calls. If the Pats can find a way to isolate him on a back (or, more specifically Hernandez by aligning him in the backfield) they can also exploit him readily in the passing game.
While I still think Ed Reed makes tremendous reads and baits better than anyone, it's clear to me that he can't tackle anymore. His will is there, but his body isn't capable of doing it anymore. What's the key? Get Gronk on him, and establish it early. It will be a challenge because I think Baltimore will high-low Gronk and press him with a dlineman, but with motion and spacing I think the offense will find a way to force Reed to matchup physically with Gronkowski. Not only am I certain Gronk will run him over, but Reed's ball skills will be negated by Gronk's catch radius and overall body positioning. How crazy is it so say a major focus on the gameplan should be to throw directly at Reed? It's true, though, and an advantageous matchup.
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Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
so ..... youre saying that he hasn't lost a step, but he's lost a step?
the ravens were 4-0 without him....they had their best defensive game of the year without him
if a game changer is going to appear from the ravens, I'd bet it won't be lewis. he's hit that age. he will go nuts sunday, which will likely cause him to overpursue.
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Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
When you talk about pressing Gronk with a DL, wouldn't a solution to that be putting him out wide? Can't do it on every down, but on 3rd and long it makes a lot of sense.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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Originally Posted by Sciz
When you talk about pressing Gronk with a DL, wouldn't a solution to that be putting him out wide? Can't do it on every down, but on 3rd and long it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, exactly. That's why they motion him around so much. It makes it much more difficult to prevent him from getting a release.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
I'll admit that I haven't watched every Ravens game this year, but I have seen them several times (Jets, Jags, at Pitt, SF, at SD and last week's game vs Houston if my memory is correct).
Ray Lewis does seem slower, especially when he moves laterally. And I agree with Reed; I can't pinpoint it but his tackling seems different.
To me without a doubt the biggest concern is neither Lewis nor Reed but it is Suggs; to me he's playing the best football of his career.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
Hard to get a D line person on Gronk with the split 3 formation the Pats love to run. The issue is then protecting the franchise which is addressed by OT Cannon plus Solder or some other 2 some combo of Cannon-Solder-Seabass. think about this...the Pats rich combination offense is not just the skilled players but the extra OT/TE combos as well.
Now, back to the "Is THIS Ocho's Breakout Game?" and other riveting topics
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
My Wednesday thoughts Jay, stray toward the OL.
1. I'm thinking that in the passing game, I like the fact that Dan Connolly will be better at establishing a strong middle, than Koppen would have been against the likes of Cody and Ngata. Though I think Koppen would have been more of an asset in the run game.
2.I can see the Ravens lining up Ngata and Suggs on the same side on passing downs in order to get Suggs matched up on a TE or RB.
3.Ngata and Cody will be tasked with power rushing our OL and keeping Brady from being able to step up to avoid the outside rush. They want him moving side to side, not up. it will be interesting to see how well the interior of the Pats OL hold up.
4.I again am wondering (for the 3rd week in a row), how the Pats will utilize Volmer if he's healthy enough to play.
5. You know Jay, don't be surprised if the Ravens replace Lewis on passing downs
6. The Pats are going to drop back around 35-40 times this game and Suggs is going to beat Light about 3 times. How those 3 plays end up will be critical to the Pats. If they are just 3 incompletions, no problem. If they are 3 sacks and fumble, then...not so good.
7. Watching Jimmie Smith play makes long for Ras Dowling even more. Part of the Raven's strong secondary is because he's come on late in the year. He gives us an insight on the impact of having a big CB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him matched up on Hernandez a lot.
8. I am praying that Brady stays patient enough to throw some dump offs to our RBs.
9. Ray Rice needs to get the Willie McGinest treatment when he tries to get into a pattern. Don't forget he's caught more balls than any other receiver.
10. Did anyone else notice that Sean Ellis seemed to have a burst or little more jump to his first step last week? Jet fans always complained that Ellis, in his later years, only showed up for a few games. Well this would be a great time for this year's great game.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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Originally Posted by jmt57
To me without a doubt the biggest concern is neither Lewis nor Reed but it is Suggs; to me he's playing the best football of his career.
Exactly. Everyone in the media is concerned with drawing up a coverage that will stop the tight ends. The problem is that they are coverage breakers. The *only* way to stop this offense is to get pressure, and Suggs is a unique blend of outside speed and burst complimented by interior strength and leverage. It wouldn't surprise me to see him aligned as an inside linebacker in some of their passing looks, or at the very least heavily utilized rushing off of Ngata.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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Originally Posted by patfanken
My Wednesday thoughts Jay, stray toward the OL.
1. I'm thinking that in the passing game, I like the fact that Dan Connolly will be better at establishing a strong middle, than Koppen would have been against the likes of Cody and Ngata. Though I think Koppen would have been more of an asset in the run game.
2.I can see the Ravens lining up Ngata and Suggs on the same side on passing downs in order to get Suggs matched up on a TE or RB.
3.Ngata and Cody will be tasked with power rushing our OL and keeping Brady from being able to step up to avoid the outside rush. They want him moving side to side, not up. it will be interesting to see how well the interior of the Pats OL hold up.
4.I again am wondering (for the 3rd week in a row), how the Pats will utilize Volmer if he's healthy enough to play.
5. You know Jay, don't be surprised if the Ravens replace Lewis on passing downs
6. The Pats are going to drop back around 35-40 times this game and Suggs is going to beat Light about 3 times. How those 3 plays end up will be critical to the Pats. If they are just 3 incompletions, no problem. If they are 3 sacks and fumble, then...not so good.
7. Watching Jimmie Smith play makes long for Ras Dowling even more. Part of the Raven's strong secondary is because he's come on late in the year. He gives us an insight on the impact of having a big CB. I wouldn't be surprised to see him matched up on Hernandez a lot.
8. I am praying that Brady stays patient enough to throw some dump offs to our RBs.
9. Ray Rice needs to get the Willie McGinest treatment when he tries to get into a pattern. Don't forget he's caught more balls than any other receiver.
10. Did anyone else notice that Sean Ellis seemed to have a burst or little more jump to his first step last week? Jet fans always complained that Ellis, in his later years, only showed up for a few games. Well this would be a great time for this year's great game.
Lots of great points. I'll give a good reply when I get some time tonight.
Re: Midweek thoughts...I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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Originally Posted by jays52
Exactly. Everyone in the media is concerned with drawing up a coverage that will stop the tight ends. The problem is that they are coverage breakers. The *only* way to stop this offense is to get pressure, and Suggs is a unique blend of outside speed and burst complimented by interior strength and leverage. It wouldn't surprise me to see him aligned as an inside linebacker in some of their passing looks, or at the very least heavily utilized rushing off of Ngata.
We have a Polite option for such an attack, at the cost of an extra OT, RB or receiver