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Old 01-18-2012, 06:07 AM   #31
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I don't remember if it was NFLN or the local MD station, but it talked about Ray Lewis in that 09 playoff game. It went into depth about how Ray Lewis knew all of Brady's playcalls, audibles, and cadences.

I'm sure the Cheatriots sent Lewis an in-depth analysis about the offense, and there was no espionage required to obtain that intel. Lewis being in our huddle and Rice being in the end zone all day meant our demise. That's the only time they've beaten us, even though we were ripe for the picking the game after Randy Moss left and we had no idea who Brady was going to throw to and in the 09 regular season when we were just a bad team.
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BJGE, Ridley, Woodhead and Hernandez coming out of the backfield on a regular basis will pick up yards against these guys. Balance is a key like last week against this defense.

One guy, Foster, took all the rushes for the Texans and was very successful.

This week they get a four-headed beast with very different running styles and strengths.
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I don't remember if it was NFLN or the local MD station, but it talked about Ray Lewis in that 09 playoff game. It went into depth about how Ray Lewis knew all of Brady's playcalls, audibles, and cadences.

I'm sure the Cheatriots sent Lewis an in-depth analysis about the offense, and there was no espionage required to obtain that intel. Lewis being in our huddle and Rice being in the end zone all day meant our demise. That's the only time they've beaten us, even though we were ripe for the picking the game after Randy Moss left and we had no idea who Brady was going to throw to and in the 09 regular season when we were just a bad team.
I remember that, they said they heard the calls on film.
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This is why BB has been drafting a lot of TE's lately and finally struck gold with Gronk and Hernandez. Start the offense by unleashing Gronk, Welker, and Hernandez within the 10-20 yards off the LOS and strike early. Go to the no-huddle and force Balt's pass-rushers to make last-minute adjustments and to second guess. This will keep them honest and by the time they figure it out the Pats will hopefully be up by 21.
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This. I feel like the no-huddle has been our bread and butter all year. Defenses really don't have an answer.
Does falling on the ground playing dead count?
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If we keep the TEs in to chip the oncoming rush, will it make it easier for the other team to redirect/throw the timing off for Brady? Would it be better to split them out off the line to make the Ravens declare their blitz/intentions. I expect we'll see plenty of shifting on the offensive and defensive front.
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I think most of the good posters already stated how a pass rush is controlled. I'll pile on
  1. Good line play
  2. running the football effectively as this forces the line to play gap control and not pin their ears back
  3. run screens
  4. bring in an extra blocker along the line or have 2 players in the backfield
  5. quick huddle or slow counts
  6. voice inflections sometimes work
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Ravens are a good Defense but I would not list rushing the passer as one of their strong suits, its Suggs and ????????????????
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Also for me this game is determined by one player Haloti Nagata. If he dominates the middle we lose. IF not we win.
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Ravens are a good Defense but I would not list rushing the passer as one of their strong suits, its Suggs and ????????????????
48 sacks, tied for third in the league looks pretty good. Pats had 40. Also led the league with 21 forced fumbles. (Pats 27th with 10).
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