DarrylS

A big reason why is because we beat them, we beat NY Jets and Denver twice...

We beat Denver twice, if we lost those games the Bronco's would have been 10 & 7

If we lost to Chargers they would have been 9 & 7

If we lost to the Raiders they would have been 9 & 7

If we lost to the Cowboys they would have been 9 & 7

If we lost to the Jets twice they would have been 10 & 7

These teams would have all had a winning record if it was not for us.. don't tell Felger and the rest of the mediots..

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PatsSox363804

How many teams in the AFC had winning records?

6

How many teams in the NFC had winning records?

6

How many teams were 8-8?

8

How many teams had losing records?

12

It's a top heavy league. While true we did not beat a team with a winning record we're responsible for 6 of those 8-8 teams not having a winning record. Baltimore can say they beat Cincinnati twice which makes their record look better but Cincinnati didnt really beat anyone to get to 9-7. So they're telling us if the Jets beat the Giants in week 15 we now are 2-1 against teams with winning records and it changes everything? That's just stupid.

Dutchmaster617

Rob Parker is going on his Pats hate rant now, spread is too high waa waaa.

I don't know what is worse, the we haven't beaten a 500 team talk, or the just like 09 talk (Watson and Aiken really?)

PatsFanSince74

What difference does it make if we beat an 8--8 team that would have been 9--7, yada yada yada?

The bottom line is that the morons who are talking that garbage will shut up if we beat the Ravens and they will continue talking it if we lose to them. The only thing the Pats control is how they play on Sunday. Otherwise, "Morons do as morons are."

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Koma

I wonder if the people making a big deal about the record of the Patriots opponents realize that NE could have gone 16-0 this season and only beaten 1 team with a winning record (Pittsburgh. The Giants would have been 8-8 with a loss to the Patriots.)

Uncle Rico

Sounds like I'm better off having no idea who the heck Rob Parker is.

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PATSNUTme

These people seem to be reaching deep into their bowels to find something negative to rant about.

I had D&C on this morning and they were playing the "what if" game. "What if" they don't have this player or that player this Sunday. And after that, they went to the BB good coach, bad GM routine.

Before I reached for the stattion button I said, "What if your pants were on fire and your ass burned up, would you be able to talk?"

I then switched it over to Mike & Mike where atleast you get some football talk, besides this total crap.

And yes, I'm way ahead of game not knowing who this Rob Parker is, don't ruin it by telling me.

Ron Sellers

Don't forget to add Philadelphia to that list as well. Just as it appeared they were going to claw their way back to the NFCE lead the Pats squashed their playoff hopes.

Another way of looking at it is to ask what all those opponent's records were in the rest of their games, i.e., in all games excluding those against the Pats (or any other team you're trying to figure out beat how many 'quality' teams). Granted other teams records would also improve but because all of a sudden 0-2 becomes 7-2, but that's not brought up because it makes for a far less scintillating story.

Also I have yet to see anybody come up with any historical correlation between records versus winning teams and playoff success. Why could that be? Because gossip and innuendo sells.

It's not unlike the number of times you will hear the phrase "31st ranked defense" about the Pats, or "NFL's worst defense" about the Packers. While those comments as well as "0-2 versus" may technically be true, in reality they are meaningless statements that imply a very inaccurate portrait of the team.

Judging a team's defense (or offense) solely on the number of yards they allow (or gain) will lead to erroneous conclusions; same is true on predicting a team's probability of winning in the playoffs based on their record against team's that finished the season with a winning record.

However there's no reason for letting facts stand in the way of a good story; both of those stats will be repeated on an hourly basis all week long as if they were the most meaningful pieces of information that one could possibly uncover in regards to the next game.

Ice_Ice_Brady

The whole thing is stupid. Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks of all-time against quality opponents. That's why he has the best winning pct of all-time by a mile. You really think because the '11 squad hasn't beaten a "winning team" (since their only opportunity was at Pittsburgh), that means they can't do it?

Likewise, Baltimore lost to some garbage teams. The teams played about the same SOS and had nearly the same record. This stuff means less than zero. All it tells you is the Pats need to be ready for a more difficult opponent than they've faced, although the Ravens may come out and play like a 4-12 team. Likewise, the Pats may play like a 4-12 team. Who knows.

IllegalContact

since you're into repeating yourself, I will do the same

the pats played who they played.....the schedule was made exactly a year ago, so what ifs are irrelevant.

look at the ravens on the road outside their division:

L titans 13-26
W rams 37-7
L jags 7-12
L seahawks 17-22
L chargers 14-34

the went 1-4 against NON PLAYOFF TEAMS

they lost to blaine gabbert and tarvaris jackson. on the road, their defense is not scary and their offense is relatively inept.

this all boils down to whether the pats can execute their game. this game will not be up to the ravens

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