4 teams Left and 3 with the best defenses; what is this telling us? - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

Patriots2001 · 01-15-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

YES. That's RIGHT. You opened your mouth and said one thing and when people showed you to be talking out your arse, you started with the spin by trying to talk about just the last 4 weeks and crap.

Face it. You failed to support your claim. You tried to take a pot shot at the Pats defense for them having given up tons of yardage during the season, yet you didn't do your homework to look at the other teams in question.

OH, and when players like Finley and Jennings are wide open and they just flat drop the ball, that has nothing to do with the defense.

As for what beat the Packers tonight? It was them turning the ball over and failing to execute properly. Sorry that you have a hard time understanding that.

You failed..I take no pot shots at anyone all i am saying the reason why we lost the superbowl in 2007 and have not won a post season until yesterday was because we had a soft defense,and anyone trys to dispute that is fooling themselves..

***Rob0729*** · 01-15-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots2001

49ers are #1 at last i checked they are hosting the championship game..

Pittsburgh was #1 and the Texans were #2. San Fran are #4.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

They are #2 in points allowed after Pittsburgh:

NFL Stats: by Team Category

I guess this is proof that being average wins championships because the best defenses and offenses lost this weekend.

***DaBruinz*** · 01-15-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots2001

I can't believe you choose to discount what impact a defense can do in the post season..bottom line the 2 best offensives in the NFL are out..Hello !!!

No one is discounting anything. WE understand the impact that defenses can have in the post-season. What you have failed to understand is that the Patriots defense has now gone 5 games without allowing a 300 yard passer. And that is also true for 7 of the last 9 games. They also held the Broncos who put up 29 points on Pittsburgh to 10 points..

Bottom line is that the #3 OFFENSE is still in the play-offs and their defense is relatively healthy. Something that wasn't the case for most of the year.

Bottom line is that if you are going to give credit to other defenses for how they have played, you need to do the same for the Patriots. You know the team that has allowed the fewest points in the play-offs to this point..

PatriotFan77 · 01-15-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots2001

49ers are #1 at last i checked they are hosting the championship game..

I am going by overall rank for 2011 season. Steelers and Houston are out.

Patriots2001 · 01-15-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

No one is discounting anything. WE understand the impact that defenses can have in the post-season. What you have failed to understand is that the Patriots defense has now gone 5 games without allowing a 300 yard passer. And that is also true for 7 of the last 9 games. They also held the Broncos who put up 29 points on Pittsburgh to 10 points..

Bottom line is that the #3 OFFENSE is still in the play-offs and their defense is relatively healthy. Something that wasn't the case for most of the year.

Bottom line is that if you are going to give credit to other defenses for how they have played, you need to do the same for the Patriots. You know the team that has allowed the fewest points in the play-offs to this point..

In those 5 games how many of those teams have a winning record ???

***BradyFTW!*** · 01-15-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Except the 49ers' defense was non-existent in the fourth quarter yesterday and they won because of their offense and not their defense. Hard to argue in a 36-32 game that defense is key.

The only team that won because of its defense, really, was Ravens. The Giants and 49ers won by dominating the turnover battle and having effective offenses *and* defenses, and the Patriots won for pretty much every reason you can win a game.

***DaBruinz*** · 01-15-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots2001

You failed..I take no pot shots at anyone all i am saying the reason why we lost the superbowl in 2007 and have not won a post season until yesterday was because we had a soft defense,and anyone trys to dispute that is fooling themselves..

I didn't fail anything and YES, you did take a pot shot at the Patriots. You are absolutely clueless as to why the Pats lost the SB in 2007, just as you are clueless as to why they hadn't won a post season game until yesterday. And it had NOTHING to do with the defense of the team.

You are the one fooling yourself. You've talked out your arse since you started this thread. First with your erroneous claims about the rankings of the defense. Then with your pathetic attempt to spin your way out of being told you were wrong. And now.

Do yourself a favor. Stop pretending you are a Patriots fan and run back to whatever troll hole you came from.

Patriots2001 · 01-15-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotFan77

I am going by overall rank for 2011 season. Steelers and Houston are out.

Granted but Steelers a one banged up QB who could not get out of the huddle without limping andf Houston the 3rd back-up GB...

RayClay · 01-15-2012, 08:27 PM

It's how you play in the playoffs. I like our defense just fine, based on yesterday. Add Chung and Spikes and a real nasty attitude and it's a defense we basically have not seen this year. Our offense is clicking too. It's nice to have the top ranked this or that, but it's what have you done for me lately in the NFL. Give me that junk yard dog look from yesterday and i'll take on anyone.

***Rob0729*** · 01-15-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots2001

Granted but Steelers a one banged up QB who could not get out of the huddle without limping andf Houston the 3rd back-up GB...

And the 49ers gave up472 yards and 32 points, but got 407 yards and 36 points on offense. What's your point? You are making a strong argument for offense winning championships since you are saying that the two best defenses in the regular season lost in the playoffs because of their QB problems.