Fencer

How would you have felt about the following 2011 draft?

1 Solder
2 Ridley
3 Dowling
4 Cannon
5 Mallett
6 M. Carter
7. M. Williams

Looks good to me.

How would you have felt about the following 2010 draft?

1 Gronkowski
2 Hernandez
3 McCourty
4 Spikes
5 Deaderick
6 Mesko
7 Cunningham

Looks awesome to me.

How would you have felt about the following 2009 draft?

1 Vollmer
2 Chung
3 Pryor
4 Edelman
5 Brace
6 Butler
7 Tate

Looks good to me.

2008 was Mayo, Slater, and washouts. Not terrible, but with the #7 overall pick to play with not great either.

2007 was poor even considering the picks the Pats were left with after some awesome trades. But hey, the rest of the football world did vote Meriweather to a couple of Pro Bowls.

2006 was downright bad, with the only successes being an excellent kicker and a TE who flourished as a backup on another team.

2005 produced Mankins, Cassell, and three dubious starters (Hobbs, Kaczur, Sanders). That's good work.

I worked from the lists on “Cap is Crap” And Other Felger Fallacies (linked in another thread). I didn't count UDFAs and other young FAs such as Arrington, Fletcher, or Ninkovich.

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TommyBrady12

it's the 2006-2008 drafts that has hurt us over the past couple years. the other drafts look good to great.

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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "

- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady

patsinthesnow

The 2009 draft is still....average.

The 2010 draft is amazing, even better when you arrange it like that. All great picks except Cunningham, I've been impressed with Deaderick.

The 2011 draft is to be determined.... we have four contributers going in the playoffs from it, Solder, Ridley, Cannon, and Moore. If Moore proves to be a keeper, that draft looks good already.

patchick

I say this a lot, but...the fact that the Patriots make more picks than any other team in the league tends to lead our fan minds astray. With so many picks, they naturally have lots of misses. So it's incredibly easy for us to point to miss after miss, which gets our blood boiling. But if, instead, you look at the total talent collected, the Patriots' record is generally excellent.

For instance, compare the Patriots and Jets in the 2010 draft. Just two seasons later five of the players the Patriots drafted are no longer with the team, including a 3rd-round pick. In contrast, every single player the Jets drafted is still with them -- 100%. If you rate drafts based on misses and missed opportunities, the Jets blew the Pats out of the water. If you look at talent collected, though, it looks like this:

JETS
Kyle Wilson
Vladimir Ducasse
Joe McKnight
John Conner

PATRIOTS
Devin McCourty
Rob Gronkowski
Jermaine Cunningham
Brandon Spikes
Aaron Hernandez
Zoltan Mesko
Brandon Deaderick

Yes, that was a banner year for the Pats, but the point is the Jets only gave themselves 4 chances. And this isn't cherry-picking...over the past 5 years, the Jets have averaged 5 draft selections per year, the Patriots 10. TEN!

PATSNUTme

How can this team be called being "hurt" by the draft when they were 14-2 last year and 13-3 this year.

This off season they need 2 or 3 pieces for the defense through the draft or FA's and they should be very solid considering all the young talent on offense.

I consider the UDFA's part of the draft- the difference between a 3rd rounder and an UDFA is so minor.

DarrylS

A lot of folks seem to listen to the mediots on the radio to try to understand how this team has evolved and do not look at the facts.. they seem to expect that we are substandard as we have not won a superbowl recently, but in reality we have had a winning team for a long time now and this team is being rebuilt before our eyes..

Either that or they read Borges et al..

Today was listening to the idiot Merloni, his idiot sidekick Munanski as that azzhole Shaunnessy was on Gresch and Zo there is only so many times they can say the same thing a a different way.

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TommyBrady12

since when do the pats measure success by regular season? On the one hand, the drafting for the offense has been great. on the other hand, the drafting for the defense has been less than average. all the "young talent" on the defense is a bit overstated. right now the team has a secondary and a bunch of linebackers who can't seem to cover.

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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "

- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady

condon84

While our offensive draft picks have been great the past few years, the fact that we have Molden, Moore, Ihedigbo, Edelman, Slater, and Jones playing significant minutes in our defensive backfield tells the story on the draft picks we've spent in that area. Merriweather, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler, and Dowling should be major contributors for us instead of the spare parts we have out there.

sg14

I had a same but different thought on this type of subject,,
How many significant 5th round and later players there are.

Without counting #12, we have Welker, 4 OLmen, a big chunk of our defensive backfield, , sure I missing others,,

3/4's of Seattle's defensive backfield is comprised of these types of selections, and one or two of those 3 are back-ups for the Pro-Bowl. Pete Carrol finally got his big CB's.

Victor Cruz of NY Giants, (why a UMass grad is not a Patriot is baffling)
Myles Austin, Romo, of Dallas,,
Fiztpatrick in Buffalo

There has to be alot of these guys.

Does make one wonder about the Draft.

IllegalContact

there's an echo in the room

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