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Which, this season, is right in the middle of the pack.
You don't just longtime players based upon one season coming off injury. You should know that.
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I have no issue with the kickers for the PATS or for the special teams play in general this year, it is much improved from last year. Ghost made a TD saving tackle last week, he gets kudos from me for that.
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Translation: I really don't know if he's healing or not.
No, I just have issues with posters who feel they need to use put-downs like "silly" to describe other's opinions, and use words like "clearly" to indicate they words are akin to the Word of God, and use expressions like "people like yourself" to indicate their self-claimed superiority. In other words, bull***** histrionics.
Hey, all I said was that in my opinon, based on this year's stats, he's an average kicker. In fact what I did say was:
Yes, no player is perfect and makes every play, but he's had some frustrating, "I can't explain why" type of misses this season, as others have pointed out in this thread.
Agree.
Welcome to some people's hater's list.
+1.
There really aren't haters on this thread. It's just a label being thrown around, and about as effective as name calling at school recess.
I suppose we could all trade posts about how great every Pat is, but personally I think that'd make for a pretty boring experience. It'd be like Da Bears skit on SNL replayed ad infinitum.
Amazing multi-poster quotation response. How long did this post take?
There's no reason to hate Stephen Gostkowski, so I don't get this thread, really. All I know is that he made us stop missing HOFer Adam Vinatieri which is a tremendous accomplishment. I hope Tom Brady's successor does the same.
In 2008, Gostkowski led the NFL with 148 points, the most by a Patriots player since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger and the second highest total in team history (Gino Cappelletti, 155 in 1964).
In 1964, Gino scored 155 ponts in 14 games? Are you kidding? In 1970, the Pats as a team only scored 149.
Since Gino was bashed pretty badly by some on this board last week (and he has lost his fastball in the announcing arena), here's a reminder to all of us of Gino's greatness as a player.
OK, now we know that in your world, pointing out that we don't really know if he's healed or not and calling him average this season is crapping on him.
You really should read your own posts because you clearly were crapping on him.
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OK, in your world, silly is not a put-down, and newbies that challenge your opinons lack self confidence and need psychiatric help.
Your status has nothing to do with anything so why bring it up? And you didn't challenge my opinion. You posted your own and did so without all the facts.. You've admitted to such. All I did was show how your opinion was flawed.
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Hating is pointing out some plays that frustrate us and calling someone average?
First off, great job taking my response out of context. I have referred twice to the Miami game thread where people were hating on Gostkowski. Instead of making assumptions, you really should read. It would help you quite a bit.
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No, we know you claim some deep knowledge about Gost's health status that you can't possibly have, and label anyone who doesn't fall in line with your thinking a hater.
What I claimed was deep knowledge about quad muscle atrophy and how long it takes to actually recover from an injury such as Gostkowski suffered. Again, the person with the problem is you because you keep making assumptions about things that just weren't said. And, no, I did not label you a hater. Again, an ignorant assumption on your part.
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Which is what you did when you cherry picked some facts in your thread starter and ignored others like his very average FG% this season.
I didn't cherry-pick anything. I put up the relevant stats. What is laughable is you thinking that an 83.9% completion is "average" when 84.3 is good for 6th best ALL TIME. If anything, it was you who decided to cherry-pick things with your claim that 83.9% is "average".
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I didn't resort to calling everyone who disagreed with me a "hater".
The problem is that you didn't see me call everyone who disagreed with me a "hater". Nor did you see me call YOU a hater. That goes back to you not reading what is actually posted and not making assumptions.
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As you are doing by ignoring is very average FG% this season.
Again, 83.9% is not a very average FG%. That is your ignorance shining for everyone.
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Nah, I don't rely on the opinions of others the way you seem to need to. Maybe it's you that needs that trip to the shrink?
Clearly, you wish to be taken seriously, otherwise you wouldn't have continued to respond to posts the way you have.
I have no issue with the kickers for the PATS or for the special teams play in general this year, it is much improved from last year. Ghost made a TD saving tackle last week, he gets kudos from me for that.
Exactly, not sure how anyone can hate on this guy. On his worst day, he's an average kicker who is athletic enough to make plays on special teams that most kickers can't. But generally IMHO he's a better-than-average kicker. He's got more range than Vinatieri, but not quite as much accuracy.
Any kicker or punter, I'm sure would prevent a TD on special teams, if they have to, it doesn't make them special. Just an average kicker that save a play.
I'm admitting my hate on Gostkowski for missing some pretty easy FGs this season. So what he kicks long kickoff balls and tackles, he can't kick for 3 points from 30-40 yards off. If he has to kick to win the game in the playoffs, we're screwed!!!
Any kicker or punter, I'm sure would prevent a TD on special teams, if they have to, it doesn't make them special. Just an average kicker that save a play.
I'm admitting my hate on Gostkowski for missing some pretty easy FGs this season. So what he kicks long kickoff balls and tackles, he can't kick for 3 points from 30-40 yards off. If he has to kick to win the game in the playoffs, we're screwed!!!
Not any kicker can make an athletic play to save a TD return. Gostkowski is far more athletic than the average K. He's actually done it more than once this season. Most kickers either miss the play entirely, get run over, or get juked out of their shoes.
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