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Old 12-27-2011, 07:08 PM   #11
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Brian's had a great rebound season, and he's gotten a Pro Bowl nod as a result. I'd love to know if there was some flaw or trend that Dante found, because you don't usually see this type of improvement in an older player.

Whatever it was, this has turned out to be a hell of a signing.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:27 PM   #12
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Brian's had a great rebound season, and he's gotten a Pro Bowl nod as a result. I'd love to know if there was some flaw or trend that Dante found, because you don't usually see this type of improvement in an older player.

Whatever it was, this has turned out to be a hell of a signing.
Brian has always been a great player. His resume doesn't need explaining.

Waters was selected as the AFC Offensive Player of the Week for his play during a game versus the Atlanta Falcons on October 24, 2004. The Chiefs scored an NFL record eight rushing touchdowns during that game. Waters is the only offensive lineman ever to receive this award in either conference.

A Change of scenery can do wonders.
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Brian's had a great rebound season, and he's gotten a Pro Bowl nod as a result. I'd love to know if there was some flaw or trend that Dante found, because you don't usually see this type of improvement in an older player.

Whatever it was, this has turned out to be a hell of a signing.
The only thing I can imagine is a situation like happened early in my brother's career when his wife ran over the CEO's dog in front of the family
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Brian has always been a great player. His resume doesn't need explaining.

Waters was selected as the AFC Offensive Player of the Week for his play during a game versus the Atlanta Falcons on October 24, 2004. The Chiefs scored an NFL record eight rushing touchdowns during that game. Waters is the only offensive lineman ever to receive this award in either conference.

A Change of scenery can do wonders.
Wikipedia is wrong about that; he is, though, the only lineman to win since 1992.
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He's now a pro=bowler according to NFL network (though they say he's on KC)
I saw that....too funny
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I thought I remembered talk about an injury when the Chiefs cut him, but I could be mistaken; Waters only missed three games in ten years with the Chiefs. I think they just thought it was time to get younger; could have been a cost-savings move too.

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I think its possible Pioli had something to do with it.
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Waters' play had declined in K.C., and they wanted to get Asomoah into the starting lineup. Since the Chiefs didn't want to pay Waters starting money to be a backup and Waters didn't want to go to the bench, it became a mutual parting.

That's the basic party line, anyway.
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Brian's had a great rebound season, and he's gotten a Pro Bowl nod as a result. I'd love to know if there was some flaw or trend that Dante found, because you don't usually see this type of improvement in an older player.

Whatever it was, this has turned out to be a hell of a signing.
Lets give Dante credit, whether or not he had anything to do with it. Dante can do anything, see last weeks line adjustments after Mankins and Light went down.
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Waters' play had declined in K.C., and they wanted to get Asomoah into the starting lineup. Since the Chiefs didn't want to pay Waters starting money to be a backup and Waters didn't want to go to the bench, it became a mutual parting.

That's the basic party line, anyway.
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Waters' play had declined in K.C., and they wanted to get Asomoah into the starting lineup. Since the Chiefs didn't want to pay Waters starting money to be a backup and Waters didn't want to go to the bench, it became a mutual parting.

That's the basic party line, anyway.
Pretty much but there was also a definite rift between the coaching hierarchy and Waters as well. It was just time to move on for both parties.

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Waters got off to rocky start with new regime. When general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley took over in 2009, it was a team that won six games in the previous two years, and was coming off a 2-14 season. There were reports that Haley told Waters, in a private meeting, that he could take 22 guys off the street and win two games. In Kovitz’s view, Waters was attempting to be a bridge between the new regime and players by meeting with Haley, but the meeting apparently wasn’t well received by Haley, which led to the "22 players" remark. "Waters got off on a bad foot with those guys," Kovitz said.
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