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Old 12-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #31
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WOW--who would have guessed someone else would have suggested WESLEY WOODYARD?? He was my binky in the draft a few years ago and after coming in 2nd to Mayo in tackles in the ACC AND posting the 2nd fastest 40 time to....Gary Guyton.....he went UNDRAFTED! Made the team and a few years later is a starting LB for a good defense in Denver. He is a tackling machine and always around the ball, kinda like Cunningham in college. He is "too small" for the pats LB corp...but lets face it, he can play anywhere why not here?
you think this is weird for you? Facebook used to request I be friends with Woodyard. Maybe I should go track him down and recruit him.
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:25 PM   #32
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Could see the Pats trying to bring in Reggie Wayne. BB has a great deal of respect for him and specifically sought him out after Sunday's game to shake his hand.
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scrap heap bums? Lloyd has become a pro bowl receiver, Forte is an all pro running back and arguably the best in the NFL and Dashon Goldson has been the 49ers best defensive player next to Patrick Willis this year and will be a pro bowler.
Forte, yes good player (as I said)

Lloyd, pretty good WR who was traded midseason for a 5th round draft pick. Not exactly Calvin Johnson or Greg Jennings.

Goldson. I will take your word for it. Franklin and McDonald are pretty good too.


I used some creative license and hyperbole to make a point. The Patriots are pretty much set on offense (assuming Welker is signed) but none of the players below would significantly help their defense.

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1. Brandon Lloyd, WR- The best fit at wide receiver for the Patriots

2. Dashon Goldson, S- They were interested in him last season and he's been even better this year. Goldson is a great fit next to chung and automatically makes the secondary 10 times better.

3. Matt Forte, RB- They probably wouldn't have the money to go after Forte but if they are not comfortable with Vereen, Ridley or Woodhead then I could see them making a push for Forte. Green-Ellis will not be back, he'll ask for more than the Patriots think he's worth and if they're gonna spend that money on any free agent running back, it would be Forte, not Green-Ellis.

4. Eddie Royal, WR- If Lloyd is too expensive then Royal would be a high reward cheaper fallback option.

5. Wesley Woodyard, LB: The Broncos Special Teams captain who was been seeing a lot of time at linebacker this year having 76 tackles and 2 forced fumbles so far. He would be great linebacker depth and is a terrific special teams player something Belichick always loves.

6. Zackary Bowman, CB- Belichick has always liked Bowman and would be much better than guys like Molden and Phillip Adams. With Ras-I Dowling's status up in the air as well, Bowman would be a great signing for the Patriots.

7. Shaun Rogers, DT- Maybe a bit too similar to the Haynesworth signing but Rogers isn't nearly as bad and has actually been productive for the Saints this year. Rogers would be a nice fit next to Wilfork.
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Who said this list was JAGS? Goldson and Carlos Rogers are a part of one of the best secondaries in the NFL. Listen, the Pats defense is horrible. You improve it one or two ways. You go out and sign the big stud, probably Mario Williams in this case or you fit in pieces.

Oh, and you have to draft players, which I am not confident they can do. Its kind of like a bullpen, you go out sign some players and some will hit, some will get hurt and some will miss. New TV contracts, salary cap will be going up because its based on a % of the income pie. So this would be a good offseason to spend. I would also lock up Gronk, Welker and Mayo longer term.

They need a veteran safety next to Chung. They need another veteran corner, they need to draft one in the first 2 rounds and they need McCourty to play better. They need a pass rusher/linebacker.


7 Guys I would target, maybe you get 3. This includes re-signing Carter.

1) Israel Idonije, having a huge year. Great next to Vince.
2) Michael Griffin, although I doubt the Titans let him walk.
3) Dashon Goldson, although I doubt he leaves now that's he's on a winner
4) Carlos Rogers, he's up in down, but they need a player at CB.
5) Marques Colston - Lloyd won't be cheap, they need a guy to run down the field
6) Kroy Biermann - Can rush the passer, won't break the bank
7) Ruud, Spencer, James - depending on what they do in the draft

Then on Offense, they are in great shape with Cannon, Solder and Waters one more year.

They need Welker, Branch as a 4th Wide out, a Deep runner, veteran running back for depth.

1st pick I would trade up to get one of the Bama safeties or a pass rusher. Second round Linebacker you can develop. Then I always rounds 3-5 are depth guys.

Football is like baseball in that you need to be strong up the middle. NT, MLB, Safety, and edge rusher/play making corner

Balt - Ngati, Lewis, Reed, Suggs
GB - Raji, Hawk, Matthews, Woodson
Jets - need a NT, but they still have Harris, Revis
Texans - Ryans, Cushing, Barwin, Joseph

Pats have - Vince and Mayo and not much else. Carter has played great, but he's not impactful in every game. If Haynesworth had done the job, he would have been EVEN better.

That being said, they did nothing this offseason but bring in retreads. Waters was low risk and he's been great, Carter was a surprise. I expect the same. The Pats better get used to the fact that there are teams in the AFC much more desperate than they are for a title. They will spend money to do it. The Salary cap is crap with all the TV money flowing in. Plus you have to spend to 90%, time to get moving.
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Robert Mathis, would be an upgrade. Carter and Anderson are both free agents, if all three are signed it is a nice little rotation.
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Another guy I just noticed whose a free agent after the year is Adam Carriker. He has pretty good numbers this year with 25 tackles and 5 sacks for a good Redskins defense.

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Is Adam Seward's contract up at the end of the year?
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Stevie Johnson (hoping he matures and stays focused). The man torched Revis Island.

edit: Manningham and Meacham as well.
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Stevie Johnson sux. Watch another game besides the Pats once in awhile. He dropped a TD to lose the Steelers game last year. He single-handley lost the Jets game with a penalty and two dropped TD's.
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Stevie Johnson (hoping he matures and stays focused). The man torched Revis Island.

edit: Manningham and Meacham as well.
We could have had any of those guys in stead of Merriweather four year ago.
Darolyn72: I like your selections but definitely *Meacham* over Colston way more *speed* which we are lacking.
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