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Old 12-05-2011, 08:37 AM   #21
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If you're going to start a thread do some homework. FIRST of all, they CHEAPED out on Goldson, they had him here, worked him out and let him leave after offering him a crappy contract. Then they cut both their safties. And yesterday they had Matthew Slater there. The FA crop is great, but the "Genius" won't pursue, anyone, he's so smart. Funny, he could have gone after Crennel, maybe Crennel was the reason the defense was good 2001-2004. Bill has gone Howard Hughes. Just trying to cuter and cuter on defense. Meanwhile, he has had one of the worst defenses in the NFL for two years now. Here are guys that should be on the radar. Doubtful they sign one.

Free Agents the Patriots should look at

1 Mario Williams DE Houston
2 Cortland Finnegan CB Green Bay
3 Wes Welker WR New England
4 Cliff Avril DE Lions
5 Brent Grimes CB Falcons
6 LaRon Landry S Redskins
7 Marques Colston WR Saints
8 Terrell Thomas CB Giants
9 Michael Griffin S Titans
10 Brandon Lloyd WR Rams
11 Lardarius Webb CB Ravens
12 Carlos Rogers CB 49'ers
13 Matt Roth DE Jaguars
14 Chris Hope S Titans
15 Anthony Spencer LB Cowboys
16 Bradie James LB Cowboys
17 Mario Manningham WR Giants
18 Barrett Ruud LB Bucs
19 Kroy Biermann DE Falcons
20 Israel Idonije DT Bears
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:12 AM   #22
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LAndry use to be on my wish list wonder if he would be a good fit???
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1. Brandon Lloyd, WR- The best fit at wide receiver for the Patriots

2. Dashon Goldson, S- They were interested in him last season and he's been even better this year. Goldson is a great fit next to chung and automatically makes the secondary 10 times better.

3. Matt Forte, RB- They probably wouldn't have the money to go after Forte but if they are not comfortable with Vereen, Ridley or Woodhead then I could see them making a push for Forte. Green-Ellis will not be back, he'll ask for more than the Patriots think he's worth and if they're gonna spend that money on any free agent running back, it would be Forte, not Green-Ellis.

4. Eddie Royal, WR- If Lloyd is too expensive then Royal would be a high reward cheaper fallback option.

5. Wesley Woodyard, LB: The Broncos Special Teams captain who was been seeing a lot of time at linebacker this year having 76 tackles and 2 forced fumbles so far. He would be great linebacker depth and is a terrific special teams player something Belichick always loves.

6. Zackary Bowman, CB- Belichick has always liked Bowman and would be much better than guys like Molden and Phillip Adams. With Ras-I Dowling's status up in the air as well, Bowman would be a great signing for the Patriots.

7. Shaun Rogers, DT- Maybe a bit too similar to the Haynesworth signing but Rogers isn't nearly as bad and has actually been productive for the Saints this year. Rogers would be a nice fit next to Wilfork.


Obviously Resigning Welker, Andre Carter and Rob Ninkovich are big priorities too but I do not see BenJarvus Green-Ellis coming back to the Patriots. Some team is gonna pay him more money than he is worth.
Outside of Forte all those players are JAGs. I appreciate your effort to find realistic options that offer 'value' to the Patriots but the worst defense in NFL history needs more than some suck ass scrap heap bums.

The Patriots offseason lists starts with Welker and then hopefully extends into an impact defensive player (either as a free agent or by trade).
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Outside of Forte all those players are JAGs. I appreciate your effort to find realistic options that offer 'value' to the Patriots but the worst defense in NFL history needs more than some suck ass scrap heap bums.

The Patriots offseason lists starts with Welker and then hopefully extends into an impact defensive player (either as a free agent or by trade).
Lloyd is not a JAG.
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If you're going to start a thread do some homework. FIRST of all, they CHEAPED out on Goldson, they had him here, worked him out and let him leave after offering him a crappy contract. Then they cut both their safties. And yesterday they had Matthew Slater there. The FA crop is great, but the "Genius" won't pursue, anyone, he's so smart. Funny, he could have gone after Crennel, maybe Crennel was the reason the defense was good 2001-2004. Bill has gone Howard Hughes. Just trying to cuter and cuter on defense. Meanwhile, he has had one of the worst defenses in the NFL for two years now. Here are guys that should be on the radar. Doubtful they sign one.

Free Agents the Patriots should look at

1 Mario Williams DE Houston
2 Cortland Finnegan CB Green Bay
3 Wes Welker WR New England
4 Cliff Avril DE Lions
5 Brent Grimes CB Falcons
6 LaRon Landry S Redskins
7 Marques Colston WR Saints
8 Terrell Thomas CB Giants
9 Michael Griffin S Titans
10 Brandon Lloyd WR Rams
11 Lardarius Webb CB Ravens
12 Carlos Rogers CB 49'ers
13 Matt Roth DE Jaguars
14 Chris Hope S Titans
15 Anthony Spencer LB Cowboys
16 Bradie James LB Cowboys
17 Mario Manningham WR Giants
18 Barrett Ruud LB Bucs
19 Kroy Biermann DE Falcons
20 Israel Idonije DT Bears
I didn't know cortland finnegan was on the packers, I thought he was on the titans. News to me lol jk.
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Finnegan is a jerk but going after terrell thomas after coming off an acl injury could be good if we can get him for cheap. Many people thought he would have a breakout year but i bet the Giants wont let him get away. The guy is one of the best tackling corners in the game
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If you're going to start a thread do some homework. FIRST of all, they CHEAPED out on Goldson, they had him here, worked him out and let him leave after offering him a crappy contract. Then they cut both their safties. And yesterday they had Matthew Slater there. The FA crop is great, but the "Genius" won't pursue, anyone, he's so smart. Funny, he could have gone after Crennel, maybe Crennel was the reason the defense was good 2001-2004. Bill has gone Howard Hughes. Just trying to cuter and cuter on defense. Meanwhile, he has had one of the worst defenses in the NFL for two years now. Here are guys that should be on the radar. Doubtful they sign one.

Free Agents the Patriots should look at

1 Mario Williams DE Houston
2 Cortland Finnegan CB Green Bay
3 Wes Welker WR New England
4 Cliff Avril DE Lions
5 Brent Grimes CB Falcons
6 LaRon Landry S Redskins
7 Marques Colston WR Saints
8 Terrell Thomas CB Giants
9 Michael Griffin S Titans
10 Brandon Lloyd WR Rams
11 Lardarius Webb CB Ravens
12 Carlos Rogers CB 49'ers
13 Matt Roth DE Jaguars
14 Chris Hope S Titans
15 Anthony Spencer LB Cowboys
16 Bradie James LB Cowboys
17 Mario Manningham WR Giants
18 Barrett Ruud LB Bucs
19 Kroy Biermann DE Falcons
20 Israel Idonije DT Bears
Take your own advice...

And you're high if you think the Pats will even have an opportunity to sign some of the players you have listed. Most of those players aren't likely to be changing teams...
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If you're going to start a thread do some homework. FIRST of all, they CHEAPED out on Goldson, they had him here, worked him out and let him leave after offering him a crappy contract. Then they cut both their safties. And yesterday they had Matthew Slater there. The FA crop is great, but the "Genius" won't pursue, anyone, he's so smart. Funny, he could have gone after Crennel, maybe Crennel was the reason the defense was good 2001-2004. Bill has gone Howard Hughes. Just trying to cuter and cuter on defense. Meanwhile, he has had one of the worst defenses in the NFL for two years now. Here are guys that should be on the radar. Doubtful they sign one.

Free Agents the Patriots should look at

1 Mario Williams DE Houston
2 Cortland Finnegan CB Green Bay
3 Wes Welker WR New England
4 Cliff Avril DE Lions
5 Brent Grimes CB Falcons
6 LaRon Landry S Redskins
7 Marques Colston WR Saints
8 Terrell Thomas CB Giants
9 Michael Griffin S Titans
10 Brandon Lloyd WR Rams
11 Lardarius Webb CB Ravens
12 Carlos Rogers CB 49'ers
13 Matt Roth DE Jaguars
14 Chris Hope S Titans
15 Anthony Spencer LB Cowboys
16 Bradie James LB Cowboys
17 Mario Manningham WR Giants
18 Barrett Ruud LB Bucs
19 Kroy Biermann DE Falcons
20 Israel Idonije DT Bears
Grimes is better than Finnegan and there's no way they'll pay Mario Williams, they'll bring back Andre Carter. Carlos Rogers would be a good target as well as Josh Morgan.
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Outside of Forte all those players are JAGs. I appreciate your effort to find realistic options that offer 'value' to the Patriots but the worst defense in NFL history needs more than some suck ass scrap heap bums.

The Patriots offseason lists starts with Welker and then hopefully extends into an impact defensive player (either as a free agent or by trade).

scrap heap bums? Lloyd has become a pro bowl receiver, Forte is an all pro running back and arguably the best in the NFL and Dashon Goldson has been the 49ers best defensive player next to Patrick Willis this year and will be a pro bowler.
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LAndry use to be on my wish list wonder if he would be a good fit???
He has long term injury concerns (Achilles) and I'm guessing he'll never play a full season again.
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