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Old 11-23-2011, 05:17 AM   #1
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Interesting take from Karen Guregian, hopefully he can overcome what is wrong and return to form.. even though where he is is not all that bad..

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Tom Martinez knows something is wrong with his star pupil. It jumps off the TV screen when he watches Tom Brady [stats] deliver the football.

And if the visuals and studying of replays weren’t enough evidence, Martinez received a phone call from the Patriots [team stats] quarterback last week, urging him to fly from the West Coast to help fix all the mechanical problems.

While one report has suggested Brady is suffering from a bone bruise near the elbow on his throwing arm, Martinez wouldn’t say definitively what the malady was, claiming the QB doesn’t discuss injuries with him, but that clearly a problem has been affecting passes.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:33 AM   #2
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Interesting take from Karen Guregian, hopefully he can overcome what is wrong and return to form.. even though where he is is not all that bad..

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thanks for the article.
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It sounds like Brady is dealing with some pain in his throwing arm.
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It sounds like Brady is dealing with some pain in his throwing arm.
that plus a bunch of stiffs at WR other than welker, who is more of a slot guy than a WR, would explain why he's holding onto the ball way too long.
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Martinez clearly is a Chicken Little. Maybe even a troll.
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Interesting...he's definately off at times but i'm sure having an actual WR would go along in fixing that problem. Every throw Brady makes has to be made into tight coverage these days so every throw has to be pinpoint accurate.

Thank god for that TE we have..that tall fellow.
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Martinez clearly is a Chicken Little. Maybe even a troll.
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As pointed out by Bedard, he does seem to have suffered and injury to his throwing arm, which I assume would impact his accuracy, velocity, etc.

I'm not going to pour over the numbers to look for clues but this is the problem when your QB is one of the most accurate passers in NFL history-his mediocre, marginal games are scrutinized like no one else's.

The pass to Woodhead on the goal line sticks out a little for me. If TB threw it so he would lead him to the front-corner, that would have been an easy TD. Instead, he threw it behind him and was ultimately broken up. Is the injury the root case for that particular throw being off the mark? Maybe.

What I do know it that for 6 straight weeks, TB has been playing defenses that either know their offensive system or are decent defenses in their own right that can get after the passer.
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As pointed out by Bedard, he does seem to have suffered and injury to his throwing arm, which I assume would impact his accuracy, velocity, etc.

I'm not going to pour over the numbers to look for clues but this is the problem when your QB is one of the most accurate passers in NFL history-his mediocre, marginal games are scrutinized like no one else's.

The pass to Woodhead on the goal line sticks out a little for me. If TB threw it so he would lead him to the front-corner, that would have been an easy TD. Instead, he threw it behind him and was ultimately broken up. Is the injury the root case for that particular throw being off the mark? Maybe.

What I do know it that for 6 straight weeks, TB has been playing defenses that either know their offensive system or are decent defenses in their own right that can get after the passer.
I vote for Mechanics being the bigger problem over Injury.

Reason being that his 20-30 yard passes seem crisp and accurate, but he keeps throwing ground balls or wild pitches on the screens and dump offs. Watch any of the last 5 game films - - it's a stark difference.
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