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Boston Boxer · 11-14-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta Patsfan

While I've never been a fan of this trade, it did seem that they had better chemistry last night.

on the two catches i saw, Ocho was wide open. It seems he is starting to do something right. Other than thise two plays, i dont remember seeing him on the field in the second half though.

nabwong · 11-14-2011, 10:27 AM

I'd like to chime in that the no huddle really depends on when you execute it. We tried to do it against pittsburgh but because the crowd was so loud, our communication was affected and we had many false start penalties. Once we lost our composure, it's not effective anymore. It's is definitely psychological. It depends on the things on the field and also off the field.

satz · 11-14-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

A couple of things:

1.) Peyton Manning would disagree with you that you can't run the no huddle all the time. He pretty much did. Besides, there is a difference between a no huddle and a hurry up. A no huddle doesn't mean you have to snap the ball quickly. Many times when the Pats run the no huddle, the Pats snap the ball with only a few seconds left on the play clock.
2.) I am not advocating that though. Just that they need to run it more often.

Peyton and colts run a offence where the players play every down . same formation and each running some different pattern. To run it you need really good RB ,2 WR and 1 TE a reason the last few yrs he struggles when the quality of them go down. also same goes of OL. we do not build a top heavy team where the top guys are elite to play such. we spend our to build a 53 man team. just a different team building method.

Wax Frog · 11-14-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Everyone was on their jock because they crushed the Bills last week...

Ewww!

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***Rob0729*** · 11-14-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by satz

Peyton and colts run a offence where the players play every down . same formation and each running some different pattern. To run it you need really good RB ,2 WR and 1 TE a reason the last few yrs he struggles when the quality of them go down. also same goes of OL. we do not build a top heavy team where the top guys are elite to play such. we spend our to build a 53 man team. just a different team building method.

I am just saying it could be done. Not advocating doing it.

***mgteich*** · 11-14-2011, 10:49 AM

No huddle does NOT have to be hurry up.

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Originally Posted by satz

Points of contention on your thoughts

No Huddle - No team can go no huddle all the time. You are stuck with one personal formation and guys get gassed runnning around at that pace.
also you loss all ability to substitue in this. Yesterday we had success with no huddle due to the constant change of personal . The jets could not matchup our changing personal and every time we caught them with no huddle.So just saying lets play no huddle is not a solution.Every time bart scott went out we ran and every time he came in we threw.Its not a product of No Huddle. Also gronk was singled by Smith and he was not doubled.

Also the defense major issue was revis on wes ,because of this the safety and other corners set after revis does. By moving wes all around they were lost. Again it was a game plan issue. Do you really think REX with do the same game plan next time ?.

Ninkovich has been one of the better SAM LB in the league. He is a decent OLB but in a 4-3 he has been solid as hell. He is the guy who jams TE ,Sets a hard edge , rushes when rb stay home to block and takes on RB coming out of the field. DE to SAM LB is big tranformation. Bru never played outside the tackle box where he plays .He is space and hits the TE`s. Not sure if bru ever did this as a ILB in a 3-4.Just saying 2 entirely different position with 2 different responsibilty in 2 different systems.

rest good points/

RIpats88 · 11-14-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Boxer

on the two catches i saw, Ocho was wide open. It seems he is starting to do something right. Other than thise two plays, i dont remember seeing him on the field in the second half though.

I think his 53yard catch really set the tone for the game IMO.

the Jets were ready to play us like the Giants/steelers did by clogging the middle, testing us to throw deep...once Ocho burned them they had to respect the deep threat..opening up the middle for everyone else...especially since our running game never could get anything going

***Jangles*** · 11-14-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph

Its a shame Ocho stepped out of bounds on the play where Cromartie was lost. It looked like the play could have been a long gainer.

Brady didnt seem upset at all. Thats got to help Ochos development.

Brady looked like a parent encouraging his kid on that play. I loved it. Ocho messed up, but I bet a huge weight was lifted off the pair of them on that drive.

***KontradictioN*** · 11-14-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

7.) Gronkowski is a special player. He could be a Hall of Famer when it is done. The guy is virtually uncoverable. The fact the Jets put Revis on him on some plays shows how great other teams think he is. I don't know if Revis has ever covered a TE. Not even Gates, Witten, Clark, or Gonzalez.

Revis covered Gates in the '09 divisional playoff game. Not all the time though. He went back and forth between Gates and Jackson.

***KontradictioN*** · 11-14-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpittsburgh

I would worry about Houston before Pittsburgh.

For some odd reason, the coaching staff put zero consideration into the idea that the Steelers would not go beyond the "do what we do" concept.

I hate the loss but it has to be a comfort to know that "suprise" will not be dropped on us in the playoffs.

Besides, the defense we saw yesterday will shut down their offense.

That's because the defense we saw yesterday played mostly man coverage with at least one deep safety most of the time and didn't just sit back in the zone while blitzing the ILB's far too often. The secondary has finally gotten used to man coverage and having a safety hover over the top has greatly helped out McCourty and the rest of the CB's. Not to mention, we were getting pressure with a four to five man rush a lot of the game.