RIpats88

Haynesworth a lost cause in New England - The Boston Globe

pretty good article by bedard here and pretty much my sentiments from the Giants game....it looks like Ocho is close to getting in sync with brady and its something that we desperately need as he is our only receiver(besides Welker) that can get open in man to man coverage...something he was doing quite often in the Giants game.

like I said in a thread I started we need either Price or Ocho to get in sync with brady to fix this pass offense because they can get open vs man coverage and play the sidelines..something Branch cant do. our offense is too focused in the middle of the field right now, hence all the tipped balls

fnordcircle

The problem I have with all the **** people give Ocho is there is a certain venom attached to it like Ocho is a bad guy.

We've heard nothing and seen nothing other than the fact that Ocho works as hard as anyone else. That's the big difference between him and Haynesworth.

Ultimately maybe he's not a good fit but the guy is trying and he's not making a lot of noise about how low his stats and reps are.

Every game increases the odds he's done here, granted, but I don't think it's fair when people lump him together with Haynesworth. Especially because Haynesworth made more of an impact when he was on the field but apparently had other issues based on what has come out the last couple days.

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RIpats88

ive been very critical of Ochocinco the past few weeks...i was in favor of ending the experiment and moving on to Price or an outside option

but I think the Giants game showed that he can be a factor in the receiving game if he/brady get on the same page. and honestly 3 of those balls were uncatchable.

DefenseRules

I don't mind Ocho. At least he's trying. But I have a problem with a player who doesn't try and doesn't care. Haynesworth did not care, and he didn't try very hard either. To just show no effort on that 10 yard run by Jacobs is disgusting. It's not the first game that I've seen that from him either. But I thought, well he's working on his conditioning, he's not in game shape yet etc. etc. Sometimes a player is what he is. Haynesworth can be a great player when he wants to. The problem is he doesn't want to all the time.
I can just imagine the outcry if he had stayed long enough to play like that in a playoff game, and give up a big play at a critical point in the game. If the players around him can't rely on him to do "his job", what is the point of keeping him around?

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parthasas

ocho was wide open along with welker for a few plays but Brady either didn't have time to throw or was not even looking at his direction

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JackBauer

Thanks for posting this article. I thought this bit was interesting:

Rob0729

I put much of the blame on Ocho not catching a ball this Sunday on Brady. Ocho should have had three or four catches, one for a TD if Brady wasn't so off. I might have said that it was Ocho out of place, but Brady was off with a lot of receivers and one pass to a wide open Ocho was a yard out of bounds and the pass to the end zone where Ocho was wide open was in a spot where it would have been impossible for Ocho to get to.

I was impressed with Ocho this past Sunday. He was open a lot even when Brady wasn't looking in his direction. I think it was a case of Brady being off this past weekend. Hopefully, he won't be and they can connect a lot Sunday night.

Rob0729

Yeah, the funny thing is listening to the radio the last few days, they have been saying the Pats generated no pass rush on Sunday which clearly wasn't the case. They generated no sacks, but they did pressure Manning a lot.

parthasas

huh, so much to the notion that Brady was under pressure and was not able to throw to his receivers

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DefenseRules

I am the biggest Brady fan around. But my boy SUCKED on Sunday! Period. He needs to go check himself.

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