Shelterdog

You essentially have to pick either your coach (say Urban Meyer: I don't think you upgrade on Belichick with a Gruden or Cowher-you have to think a little outside of the box) or your personnel guy (some assistant GM somewhere like DeCosta in Baltimore) and then let them heavily shape who else you're putting in place.

Rob0729

First, Kraft didn't become a billionaire for not having cajones. In fact, Eddie Andleman always complained that Kraft was a ruthless businessman. Granted Andleman was on the wrong side of business dealing with him for the Foxboro race track.

Second, I don't know if Kraft needs to do anything. These anti-Belichick rants come out after a loss, but I think fans are being way too spoiled and unobjective. Yes, Belichick has made blunders, but so has every coach and GM in this league. I think too many Pats fans think Super Bowls are some kind of birthright. Yes, Belichick needs to do a better job in several areas, but it isn't the disaster that people make it out to be after this loss.

SoonerPatriot

This could also apply to you.

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borg

Another question:

What happened between draft day and today? Belichick drafted for depth in 2011, adding an extra T (Light insurance), an extra DB (Bodden/McCourty seen as starters) added backup RBs and a 3rd QB. BB treated this draft as a depth builder for a roster that appeared intact going into the lockout.

Fast forward to today.

7 DBs on the 2010 roster (6 of 7 were cut) are no longer Patriots

Sanders
Page
Meriweather

Bodden
Butler
Wheatley
Wilhite

BB drafts 1 DB....months later jettisons 6 DBs (Page contract was up I believe). What happened that BB went from a high comfort level in his secondary to an almost complete removal? How did it get so bad that BB would rather use practice squad players and crappy team castoffs? Could they all have regressed at the same time? Or was their an epidemic of bad attitudes?

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Rob0729

First, Solder was not drafted as insurance for Light. Light wasn't even on the roster until training camp. Light was insurance for Solder and if he wasn't ready to start right away at LT, not the other way around.

Second, what happened was the lockout. Belichick had no idea what kind of shape any of his players were in and whether they were dedicated to preparing for the season. Typically by draft day coaches and GMs have a good idea of what players are committed to the offseason and which ones aren't. He also would have known how guys like Bodden were recovering from their injury. The lockout screwed up a lot of player evaluation. Hence why there is so much bad football this year.

I think if there wasn't a lockout, Belichick might have gotten some of the players he let go into shape to work out for the season. He might have also been more active in free agency to replace these players. The free agency was so condensed and crazy this year, you either had to bowl many of the better free agents over or they went back to their own team with one year deals. The Pats experienced that with Goldson who decided to take an one year deal with his old team rather than a better deal with the Pats.

AndyJohnson

Right, because it would be intelligent to fire Bill Bleichick, wouldn't it?

PATSNUTme

Maybe Bobby Grier is still out there to take over the personnel decisions.

Now that I have that out of my system. I think some fans need to do some reading. Not Borges or Felger, but the books that are out there that describe the scouting system that the Patriots have in place for the draft and FA's.

BB just doesn't pull these guys out of his butt, although it seems that way to many. Now maybe the scouts have to change or the grading system needs to change, I don't know. After every season BB does evaluations of the coaches and the scouts before he even gets to players.

But there are many people who have input on players to be drafted, retained, and to be sought in FA. I'm sure Bob Kraft is kept posted on all of this and also has his opinions known.

AndyJohnson

Actually it doesnt because I do not lack the intelligence that would result in firing Bill Belichick.

borg

1)When all 3 Ts are healthy, Light will be the starting LT, not the insurance

2)The BB system...aka...the Patriot Way...only take players that love football and put football ahead of everything else. Are you saying these players showed up out of shape? This has never been reported, and these players played preseason games. The out of shape arguement is bogus. Funny how the JAGs picked up from other rosters were in shape but not the Patriot 6?? You are making excuses.

3)The "Big Bucks for Free Agents" arguement is completely false also. Vets were available for weeks without offers. GMs opted to keep rosters intact because of so little lack time. Little money was thrown around

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Shelterdog

1.) Even if he doesn't displace Vollmer/Light, Solder's going to get to start a lot of games in future years. You're not just drafting a guy for 2011.

2.) It certainly was reported that Sanders, Wilhite and BMW were out of shape. Injuries were a problem for Wilhite and Sanders that might have contributed to the conditioning problems.