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Old 05-21-2008, 09:17 AM   #31
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Ok guys, need some clarification here....I thought that they did away with the 6yr signings of rookies????? I thought 5yrs was tops now?
FIrst half of the first round can get a 6 year deal....and since we havent been in the first half of the first round for a while you percieved it as gone because our guys could only sign a 5 year deal. Mayo can and prolly will be forced to take a 6 year deal.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:18 AM   #32
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Good luck to the Rams getting CLong's deal done now. Or the rest of the top 5. Won't be nearly as cap friendly as RLong's or MRyan's. Likely another reason the Patriots really wanted to get their player at or beyond the 10th slot.
I think the Pats being the only team to have a winning season last year to pick in the top 10 have and advantage over other teams in negotiations.

The Rams had to sign Long. If they didn't the fans would have demanded the GM be fired.

But if two months from now BB says the following:

"After lengthly negotiations it is clear Mayo want more money than he is worth. We simply will not pay a player more than he is worth, no matter if he is a FA or a first round draft pick. I wouldn't overpay Asante and I sure as hell ain't gonna overpay a rookie. Mayo hasn't played a down in the NFL and although I feel he has a potential to add to this team I can not say he is worth more money than Junior is worth. At this point Mayo has a choice, he can sign the 5-year deal we offered for $2.5 million: play for the rookie min. and negotiate after he has proven himself; or he can sit at home its his choice. We have signed Bo and Shawn and both of them are showing great potential."

This board won't blow-up. Nobody will be demanding BB and Scott be fired.

This give the Pats a better advantage in negotiating than the other teams who had a losing season last year and need a starter. All the other top 10 picks are going to need to be a starter week 1 the roster is that bare. Mayo might not start a game all season. We need to get some youth in LB, but he was likely picked more for his impact next season than this.
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-The great personnel decision makers get their rewards for brilliance, and the bad ones get punished for folly.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:05 AM   #34
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Brady is on a team that wins wins, he takes home more money than anyone (except maybe Peyton) including his endorsements, and his girlfriend makes tens of millions $ per year.

I think he'll be happy for a while.
Brady is a good guy, not a fool. He takes less than he could demand, but he's not looking to get taken advantage of. This is the 4th year of a 6 year deal that he agreed to knowing the team was tight up against the cap prior to the new CBA and constricted as to how they could structure his deal due to an expiring CBA on the horizen. Over the first three years he averaged around a million less per year in take home than Manning's AAV (but close to $3M million less than Manning's take in the first three). Not including the endorsement discrepancy. Over the next 3 years his take home drops to just over $7M per. While Mannings remains well into double digits. And a rookie from BC is guaranteed $34M+. So please, don't insult him, he's not going to just sit back and say no biggie... He also puts up with a lot more crap off the field than Manning, and I'm not just talking personal life, through no fault of his own.

He will never screw this organization, nor should they screw him.
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I think the Pats being the only team to have a winning season last year to pick in the top 10 have and advantage over other teams in negotiations.

The Rams had to sign Long. If they didn't the fans would have demanded the GM be fired.

But if two months from now BB says the following:

"After lengthly negotiations it is clear Mayo want more money than he is worth. We simply will not pay a player more than he is worth, no matter if he is a FA or a first round draft pick. I wouldn't overpay Asante and I sure as hell ain't gonna overpay a rookie. Mayo hasn't played a down in the NFL and although I feel he has a potential to add to this team I can not say he is worth more money than Junior is worth. At this point Mayo has a choice, he can sign the 5-year deal we offered for $2.5 million: play for the rookie min. and negotiate after he has proven himself; or he can sit at home its his choice. We have signed Bo and Shawn and both of them are showing great potential."

This board won't blow-up. Nobody will be demanding BB and Scott be fired.

This give the Pats a better advantage in negotiating than the other teams who had a losing season last year and need a starter. All the other top 10 picks are going to need to be a starter week 1 the roster is that bare. Mayo might not start a game all season. We need to get some youth in LB, but he was likely picked more for his impact next season than this.

I think you meant to say draft, they haven't signed CLong yet. It could be a tough contract to get done now that the owners have opted out and seeing as the guys who cookend him are already signed to deals that can be amortized over 6 years, which his cannot.

Mayo's deal will be slotted, all rookie deals are, despite your silly hystrionics. The only question will be if they do a 6 or 5 year deal with him and how much of the deal is bonus vs. guarantees. And if they choose a 6 year deal they will not be able to amortize it for 6 years. Which is why it's a good thing is is not going to see a top 5 contract.
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Chris Long should be very happy about this.
Chris Long is a football player first. His dad has enough money for them all to retire for the rest of their lives, so Chris really does not need money. He is a football player who wants to play, so he took a good deal and now he is set for life as well. I doubt you will see him breaking the bank, or trying to opt out of his contract at any point in his career. He come from a football family and has a great grasp on what he is doing. So i dont think he is really bothered that he could have made $20M more.
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How long is Brady going to watch other qb's make more then him and stay happy?
Probably the rest of his career. Money is not the No. 1 priority with him.

However, that being said I expect the next contact to be a monster - Probably still not going to be the highest paid QB or player, but it will be nuts.

I think he'll always leave Kraft a little extra room for players that will bring a ring.
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Anyone wonder why the owner opted out of the CBA and why the Pats traded down? Even if Ryan turns out to be as good as Brady, that is a lot of money to gamble that he does.
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And none of you guys think that Tom is going to get big money when we resign him?
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And none of you guys think that Tom is going to get big money when we resign him?
Depends on how good Kevin is. If BB has some injury issues or is in the bigging of his decline AND Kevin or another QB looks to be progressing to being great QB, look to have BB trade TB at the start of the 2010 season to Buffalo for their 1st and 2nd round picks for the next three years.
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