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I explained what I expected from him in my original post.
and that was that he does not have such an offensive auto response. As his offensive auto response had little to do with what I was asking him.
an auto response should be something like this 'thanks for emailing me because of the fact that a lot of people email here I can not respond to all but I do apreciate your feed back and will in time read all my emails.'
I mean seriously so you think that is an appropriate auto response to send out to any Patriot fan who asks him a question?
No, but it's the exact response all Pats fans seem to be getting, I said it's LIKE a form letter response. My guess that kind of automation is over his head and he's copying and pasting like a madman !
No, but it's the exact response all Pats fans seem to be getting, I said it's LIKE a form letter response. My guess that kind of automation is over his head and he's copying and pasting like a madman !
The man actually believes "he knows what's up". Like he has some x-ray vision that allows him to see the truth.
What a clown!
Mark, if you're lurking like a coward....Eff Off. Man I wish he & I could put the gloves on & go at it!
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I wrote to Schlereth as well and have yet to get a response. It could be because I didn't announce myself as a Patriots fan.
It will be interesting to see what the reply is. Especially since I confronted him on a few items that he's wrong on. Like the Broncos salary cap and steroid use, as well as the number of memos that were distributed.
Thanks! I'm curious as a Steelers fan, what is your take on this, specifically knowing we taped you guys in the AFC title game in 2002?
Good Question. My take is very unpopular on the Steelers Message board. I don't think the taping of signals helped during the game they were taped in. I highly doubt that there were tape sesssions at half time. There's barely enough time to get off the field, or out of your chair, get to the locker room, or to the bathroom and take a leak, or well, take a leak, let alone break down film.
So I feel that the punishment that was handed out, earlier in the 2007 season was viable, for the violations that were discovered, and for all past violations. A fine and loss of draft pick, I'm fine with. Some folks on this board think that was too much of a punishment, and think "they didn't do anything wrong" but I think they did. They taped signals of opposing coaches to use in later games. That was wrong, according to the NFL.
As long as there is nothing else, no "walkthrough" no "communications tampering" or "no alien abductions" or other things people blame the Pats for, I'm cool. I look forward very much to our game in 08. I want very badly to beat you guys on the field of battle. The Steelers fans will of coarse make fun of Pats fans, and what not, but really, we don't have any reason to be jealous, and we know it. 5-3. That's my take on it at this point.
The Pats didn't beat the Steelers because of taping signals. The Pats beat the Steelers because of many on the field game time events. I remember each time we lost to you, including when Curtis Martin shredded our defense and the time when our Special Teams decided to get off the short bus. It happens, I have moved on. I still want to "rip out your hearts" and "Crush your spines" and "smash in your teeth" but that's all in my personal style of gamesmanship. I don't want the Pats banned, or fined more, or fired, or suspended. I want the Steelers to beat you on the field.
I happen to have in my possession a copy of the "America's Game" episode dedicated to the 1998 Denver Broncos superbowl victory that highlighted several memorable moments, like Terrell Davis' getting past the 2000 yard barrier, Elway's tearful retirement and you... well, talking about puking. I came away from that with a certain amount of respect for you after seeing you reminisce about the event. You seemed both honest and likeable, like most players who get the chance to be on "America's Game".
I saw you on ESPN the other day bashing my team's brains in for spygate and cheating. Yeah, I'm used to it by now. Every yahoo from the world of sports "journalism" has put in their 2 cents. And don't get me wrong: I think it was wrong what Belichick did, but knowing him to be who he is, I wasn't all too surprised. I would never hold Belichick in the same light I held players such as yourself. He's like an odd mix between Spock and Cheney and is better served by his reputation for being a cloak and dagger tactician. So if you told me Belichick ate babies in order to win games, I'd probably be appalled, but there'd be something Belichick-esque about it. But I respect him because he's true to himself and, well, there's something about a coach who wears the most deadpan expression while wearing the most atrocious garb on the sidelines. The man has a sense of humor, even if you'd have to put his thumbs in screws before he'd admit it.
When ESPN got on the spygate controversy, I watched all the talking heads spout, as expected, from Tom Jackson to Skip Bayliss (Skip Bayliss? Talk about bag of insight), and I was pleasantly surprised by Keyshawn and confused by Emmitt. But when you spoke, I was curious to hear what you said, because you were Mark Schlereth from "America's Game". Even if I couldn't bring myself to agree wholeheartedly, I felt you had a point in chiding the Patriots as you did. I personally don't think Belichick would willfully do something that could undermine his ability to coach his players to win games, and I believed him when he said there was no Rams walkthrough.
So, yeah, Belichick taped division and conference rivals' defensive signals. However, the subjects being taped were often aware of it and played along, which would call into question how honest an attempt at cheating this would be. Also, as shown in an article by scouts inc., but also up on ESPN's website, the person who'd benefit the most, if at all, would be the game scout, and only because it was a glorified shortcut.
Yes, I'm a Patriots' homer.
But Mark, you were a player, and you should know how difficult it would be to get any real in-game benefit from taping. You keep asking, "Well, why did Belichick do it and go to such lengths to do so?" Why does Belichick still have Tom Brady on the injury report after all these years? Why is he so secretive about contracts and the overall operation he runs in Foxboro? Well, Mark, I'm sure if you were the head coach of the Patriots, you wouldn't do these things, because you're Mark Schlereth, much in the same way I don't think Belichick would do your job the same way if he were a pundit on ESPN. Have you seen the guy behind a podium?
The truth is, us Patriots fans have had a lot worse and could still do a lot worse than Belichick for a head coach. He got us to the superbowl 4 times and we won 3 of those. He has few friends and isn't the best conversationalist, buy he's a damn good coach, and part of that is because he's so thorough about everything he does. Even when he breaks the rules, he's thorough about it. So, I can live with spygate and the hypocrites and the homers, much like you made do with the Broncos' victories in the late 90s, even though they were shafting the salary cap to pay Elway and Davis.
But back to you, Mark. I must say my opinion of you changed over the last couple of months, because I know I couldn't rag on a team for breaking any rule. That's the legacy spygate left me. If the Jets played the Patriots tomorrow and beat them while using phasers and forcefields, I wouldn't in good conscience be able to say a thing, because my team also broke the rules. What legacy did salary cap-gate leave you, Mark Schlereth?
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Your coach received not one but two memos from the league that all 32
teams received to stop taping signals...he ignored it...he lied about
it...Your organization said it only taped divisional opponents and in
the 8 tapes that Matt Walsh turned over 3 were non-divisional
opponents...So I'm supposed to take the organization at it's word that
they never used the tapes during games to gain an unfair competitive
advantage...Please!
Wanna bet?
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I'm not even expecting a response, but if that's what I get, then it would prove that he at least got my message. I also countered the stock response in one of my arguments in the email, so he'll either help support the argument that he's a moron, or have to give a different type of response.
I'm not even expecting a response, but if that's what I get, then it would prove that he at least got my message. I also countered the stock response in one of my arguments in the email, so he'll either help support the argument that he's a moron, or have to give a different type of response.
edit: this doesnt work either. I got the link off the thread someone else started and it works from that thread just search this site for the name Mike Shanahan it is one of the first threads that come up. Sorry i am not sure what I am doing wrong but I don't have time to think about it. I am sure it is something obvious.
Re: Schlereth a complete Fraud and a Joke
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