JR4

Did anyone catch the part where Goodell told how they confiscated the
Camera at the Jets game?

He said his people ... not the Jets took the camera.
Then some reporter asked .. are NFL people always
policing games ... he side stepped the question and
never gave a response.
Goodell did say Jets people told his people about the PATs camera man
illegally taping.
But the question remains .... do NFL people routinely go to these games
to do police work? If not why were they there? Were they called in advance
of the game? Sounds like it could have been a setup starting with memo
perhaps.

ctpatsfan77

I can't answer the larger question, but I believe NFL Security is present at every game.

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cmasspatsfan

He said that NFL security attend most games, he did answer, just kind of stumbled a little but he did say they're there most games.

JoePats

Accurate.

And of course they were set up by the Jets. Coaches were waving at the camera throughout the process, for years. So people knew it was going on. I'm sure the league did too. So why did this all go down in a Jets game, where there is legitiamate hatred between the organizations? Is that some coincidence? Not a chance.

JR4

I caught the stumbling part and just seem he was falling over his words
there and his facial expression changed ... just seemed like he was caught
with his hand in the cookie jar.

bradmahn

That's exactly what I think.

Why do we have to turn everything into a conspiracy theory? With so few games on during the week would it really shock any of you to find out that the NFL has officials and security at every game?

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PaulRevere

From a 9/12 article:

New details came to light on Tuesday. The cameraman, wearing a team polo shirt under the league-mandated sideline photographer's vest, was stopped by security as he tried to enter the New England locker room before halftime, sources said. An animated discussion ensued, involving league security, Jets security and Patriots security.

The dispute, which occurred in the bowels of the stadium, lasted more than an hour, virtually the entire second half. At one point, it became so heated that New Jersey state troopers were summoned as a precaution, a source said. The Jets apparently were trying to confiscate the videotape, which wound up in the possession of NFL security. The tape was placed in a box, sealed and forwarded to the league.

JR4

Well I think you had to see his reaction. If he had answered and that way
with out stumbling over his words and seeming evasive .... it would not have
caught my attention.
Have you ever ask a question to someone who had something to hide and
looks for the right words? This is how he seemed to react. IMO

upstater1

After watching the tapes from today, with most of the coach taping coming from the upper deck, I want to know how what the Patriots did differs from what Mangini admitted doing last year.

I thought the clear differentiation is that the Pats did it from the sideline, but that was only true of the Jets game, apparently.

How is this any different than what the Jets admitted doing?

Also, it's obvious to me now why the Patriots went to the sideline to do it. Anyone that has held a video camera knows that when you zoom in, the slightest hand movement is magnified by 10x the amount of the movement. That's why Walsh's camerawork seemed so shaky.

When you tape something, the closer you are to the action, the steadier the shot. That's why it's much much better to tape from the sidelines. Some of those videotapes from the rafters were practically useless. I'm sure people let Walsh know that his camerawork was absolutely sucky.

DefenseRules

I have been suspicious of Goodell ever since I learned that he worked for the Jets. Then again, maybe I just have a suspicious mind.

All I have to say is PAYBACK IS A BIATCH. When that CBA needs to be renewed, don't expect the Pats to work with the Jets again to come up with an agreement. A BIG FU will be given to the league. Also, Goodell better enjoy his current position. I have a feeling that he won't be there for very long.

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