patriotfan32

I don't always agree with Florio but he makes some good points here:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

DefenseRules

Wow, I never thought that I would read something like that anywhere else but on this board. I am in AWE of PFT this morning.

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PonyExpress

This is courageous reporting by Florio.

He risks alienating 95% of the football fans in the country by siding with the Pats, and the truth.

That is one of the reasons most sports reporters enjoy the story so much from an anti-Pats persepctive, it is like kicking a scapegoat on which everyone can agree.

Do I read between the lines of Florio's column the work of PatsfaninVA and fgssand, who together created the fantastic document FRAMe to set the facts straight on LIEgate?

The similarities are there, and I applaud Florio for his integrity and taking the time to sift through the facts.

castlelong1

PFT home of Belichick/Pioli to the Giants rumor last year?

Pats726

I agree...they BOTH have done a fantastic job!!! That Florio gets it is a really big deal...funny how the truth being a BIG deal in all of this!! Bravo!!! To those who got the REAL truth out on LIEgate..as well as Florio for seeing what the truth is amd how many in the media ARE anti-Patriot...

SVN

my only question is why didnt he mention this when the story broke ? about tampering, stuff going on since 1967 ...

Patsfanin Philly

Actually he did......

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/i...showuser=37974

MoLewisrocks

Because what was at the root of this reporting fiasco is something he was to some extent equally guilty of. Failure to have a clear and concise understanding of your subject matter.

There were always two seperate and distinct groups into which the media covering this story fell. Those who just didn't grasp how the game is played and the incredible insignificance of this offense in the grander scheme of things, and those who didn't care even if they did grasp it because they just hate Bill.

BSR

Florio doesn't always get it right, but I think he does try. At the very least he doesn't seem to be agenda driven. In this day an age that is about as good as you can get.

Doctor DDS

What continues to amaze me is the lack of discussion as to what taping signals actually means. Ok, the Pats taped signals. What were they? Does that mean they knew what the next play was? If the "Pats cheated" brigade cannot prove or at least discuss how the Pats were able to use this information at the time of the taping (same game) then the entire story is a waste of time. This is what fascinates me. You would think there would be an entire HBO special to disect the specifics of the issue. Have a forum with one side believing this is the greatest scandal since point shaving vs. the other side who thinks this falls somewhere between Red Auerbach gamesmanship and free agent tampering. All we ever hear is "they cheated" without any semblance of exactly how this helped them. Remember that the Pats were doing this in broad daylight in front of thousands of people. No efforts were made to conceal the cameraman that I am aware of. Apparently some prior coaches actually waved while being filmed. If this was the covert effort that the media portrays this to be why wouldn't the Pats have been more stealth. If it was so importnat then why did we go 18-0 this year before the Superbowl? Us Pats fans know the truth- it was additional scouting information with probably little value. Bill did it because he leaves no stone unturned and thought he may be able to track trends on certain coaches for future use.