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Old 05-07-2008, 04:47 PM   #1
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Let Wojcik run a Frankenstein experiment on the kid for 9 months, and when Crable shows up at 260 next spring it would be like bringing in an additional 1st rdr next season.

I don't really see Crable getting much (if any) regular playing time in '08 given his inexperience and size deficiencies. Maybe his time would be best served on the sidelines this season, taking a skinny step back IOT take 2 strong steps forward into the future.

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Let Wojcik run a Frankenstein experiment on the kid for 9 months, and when Crable shows up at 260 next spring it would be like bringing in an additional 1st rdr next season.

I don't really see Crable getting much (if any) regular playing time in '08 given his inexperience and size deficiencies. Maybe his time would be best served on the sidelines this season, taking a skinny step back IOT take 2 strong steps forward into the future.
Injuries can change your philosophy in a hurry,LB has had its share of injuries the past few seasons

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Let Wojcik run a Frankenstein experiment on the kid for 9 months, and when Crable shows up at 260 next spring it would be like bringing in an additional 1st rdr next season.

I don't really see Crable getting much (if any) regular playing time in '08 given his inexperience and size deficiencies. Maybe his time would be best served on the sidelines this season, taking a skinny step back IOT take 2 strong steps forward into the future.
Subscribing to the Andy Hart School of Skinny Legs, are we?
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Let Wojcik run a Frankenstein experiment on the kid for 9 months, and when Crable shows up at 260 next spring it would be like bringing in an additional 1st rdr next season.

I don't really see Crable getting much (if any) regular playing time in '08 given his inexperience and size deficiencies. Maybe his time would be best served on the sidelines this season, taking a skinny step back IOT take 2 strong steps forward into the future.
Even if he doesn't prove to be capable of starting right now (which he may even be able to do despite his size), he could turn out to be a good pass rush specialist. Why would you willingly lose that to redshirt him this year because of a prejudice regarding his size?

He can still participate in weight training despite playing this season.
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Even if he doesn't prove to be capable of starting right now (which he may even be able to do despite his size), he could turn out to be a good pass rush specialist. Why would you willingly lose that to redshirt him this year because of a prejudice regarding his size?

He can still participate in weight training despite playing this season.
Agreed. A redshirt of a healthy player that can contribute minutes doesn't make sense. 6'5 245 lbs is plenty big to play linebacker. I think realistically he could put on 10 lbs in a season, that shouldn't be hard for a pro to do. But I'd rather have the weight be real weight, ie additional muscle, rather than just bulk weight to satisfy fans concerned about his so called 'skinny legs'. And finally... there's no such thing as a redshirt in the NFL. This is not college, every player that you keep (practice squad excluded) counts towards your roster total. If he's taking up a roster slot, why in the world not use him?
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Even if he doesn't prove to be capable of starting right now (which he may even be able to do despite his size), he could turn out to be a good pass rush specialist. Why would you willingly lose that to redshirt him this year because of a prejudice regarding his size?

He can still participate in weight training despite playing this season.
Not sure what you mean by "prejudice". 241 lbs is 241 lbs. McGinest was a bean pole when he showed up, but still weighed 250+. I have high hopes for Crable, and I don't want to see him injured early due to some inadequate weight training under the Carr-wreck regime at Michigan.
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Let Wojcik run a Frankenstein experiment on the kid for 9 months, and when Crable shows up at 260 next spring it would be like bringing in an additional 1st rdr next season.

I don't really see Crable getting much (if any) regular playing time in '08 given his inexperience and size deficiencies. Maybe his time would be best served on the sidelines this season, taking a skinny step back IOT take 2 strong steps forward into the future.
unless he is amazing, he wont be playing ahead of woods this year...

and i expect to see a good amount of woods
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Agreed. A redshirt of a healthy player that can contribute minutes doesn't make sense. 6'5 245 lbs is plenty big to play linebacker. I think realistically he could put on 10 lbs in a season, that shouldn't be hard for a pro to do. But I'd rather have the weight be real weight, ie additional muscle, rather than just bulk weight to satisfy fans concerned about his so called 'skinny legs'.
Definitely the weight should be real weight. Maybe I missed the thread where fans were saying things about Crable's legs. My concern is football based, and has nothing to do with aesthetics.

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unless he is amazing, he wont be playing ahead of woods this year...

and i expect to see a good amount of woods
BB seems to really like Woods more than I would have thought.
So it looks like the Pats have 3 promising LBers now.
I expect Mayo to start, Woods to compete for starting/rotation minutes, and Crable to contribute on special teams, play some pass rushing downs, and try to get to the point that Woods was at last year.
How's that for a youth movement?
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Not sure what you mean by "prejudice". 241 lbs is 241 lbs. McGinest was a bean pole when he showed up, but still weighed 250+. I have high hopes for Crable, and I don't want to see him injured early due to some inadequate weight training under the Carr-wreck regime at Michigan.
I mean it in that you're assuming that he can't play because he weighs 241 pounds. He's yet to even dress in pads for the Pats, why don't we wait until then before we decide whether or not he can contribute (even in the slightest) this season?

For the record, I'd like to see him put weight on, too, but that doesn't mean he'll be useless to the Pats this season if he is sub-250.
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