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I thought of a positive....yes.....a positive
Pats are 3-1 despite playing 3 road games. I think that means there are more home games left. I'll have to check that.
Another positive:
The collapses of the Colts and Chiefs, combined with the collapse (to date) of the Eagles, help to make the last 7 games on the schedule all look very winnable.
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We're winning despite our defense playing this bad. It can't get any worse. It has to get better. Injured players will come back and solidify our D. I still have hopes for a Wilfork and Haynesworth monster combo.
Except there weren't 27 called rushing plays by the Raiders. 4 of those runs, for 29 yards, were on scrambles by Campbell after the Pats flushed him from the pocket.
Did the Pats make 2 mistakes? Yep. One resulted in a 41 yard run by McFadden and one a 30 yard run on an end around by Ford. Yes, I can chose to look at those 2 plays as the exceptions and not the norm for yesterday. The result would be 55 yards on 22 carries. That looks pretty good.. Those two plays would be points of emphasis for film review and to improve upon.
That doesn't "kill the argument" as you put it.
How about you and others stop exaggerating about how "bad" they are doing. Ken did post HONEST analysis. Just because you disagree due to being overly anal retentive doesn't change that. And he has said he expects them to improve.
Sorry, Deus, but there is nothing in points 5,6 or 7 that should make anyone think that PFK is "sugarcoating" anything.
It's not "irrelevant" to the discussion because he used it in his first post. It's called using prior history as a reason not to over-react and have a positive outlook. I know that's hard for you to understand, but it's certainly not irrelevant.
I think that the OP would know more about what we're talking about in this thread than you would. And, I'm sorry to say that your post is what is meaningless.
Thanks DB. Only now I have to figure out what to do with the extra time I would have spent responding to DI, saying exactly what you said, only not as articulately.
The collapses of the Colts and Chiefs, combined with the collapse (to date) of the Eagles, help to make the last 7 games on the schedule all look very winnable.
I agree about the Colts and KC, they look much more winnable than they did at the start of the season, but the Eagles, despite their 1-3 record, will still remain a very difficult task. Like us their offense is virtually unstoppable in gaining yds, though again like us,. their defense looks very vulnerable at this point of the season.
On the plus side,. despite the numbers that Vick is putting up, who knows if he'll even be around by the time the Pats play Philly, Still it will be one of the tougher games the Pats play.
BTW- IIRC, didn't the Pats once have a team that started the season 1-3 and then went on to great success.
Trust me there is nothing I'd like better than to have the "dream team" continue on their road to failure, but I don't see the continuing bad record continuing long term
The Pats are the only team in the league not to have a fumble. Only 1 of 3 teams (Bills and Lions) not to have lost a fumble.
The Pats defense hasn't taken the field yet with the team behind.
Tied = 12% of drives
Up 1 Score = 37%
Up 2 Scores = 37%
Up 3 Scores = 15%
TD Rate of Opposing Drives = 24%
Failure Rate of Opposing Drives = 49% (Failure = TO + 4th down stop + 3-n-out)
The TD rate is too high and the Failure rate is too low. The sweet spot seems to be when the Pats are up between 9 and 16 points (TD Rate = 13%, Failure Rate = 67%). So the defense looks to be able to play relatively well when there is some pressure, but not too much...which seems to fit with the offense. They need to find this same backbone for times when the offense can't give them a nice cushion to sit on.
Except that theyre 3-1 now. Wait they won? Wow. Seriously take a chill pill man. You should have given your gloom and doom speech at the end of the Bills game. Or is this the same speech recycled? In any case. The Pats D gave up 19 points. Its their first game where they kept the opponent under 20. They are still in the process of gelling and have room to improve. They did stopp DMC from hitting 100 yards rushing so as far as stuffing the run - mission accomplished. They forced Campbell to beat them through the air and he couldnt do it.
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Feel good if you want to, BUT, unless something drastically changes, the Pats aren't winning anything with this defense...
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I'm not saying that they can't beat the Jets (they can), what I'm saying is that their is no way this defense can stand up to a Drew Brees/Aaroon Rodgers led attack. If your gaol is to win the SUperbowl, then it can't happen.
SB ? How about winning a playoff game for a change.
Last Time this team won a playoff game was Jan 20, 2008, eeking out a 21-12 win over a gimpy Rivers, Gates, Tomlinson, and Brady's 3 picks
SB ? How about winning a playoff game for a change.
Last Time this team won a playoff game was Jan 20, 2008, eeking out a 21-12 win over a gimpy Rivers, Gates, Tomlinson, and Brady's 3 picks
You are easily the most ignorant, poor second grade level speller and unknowingly transparent troll to ever disgrace a Patriots forum.
First off..."eeking"???????????????..how stupid are you anyway? I'm guessing(can't be sure because you're so freakin' stupid)...that you mean EKING, which is a verb form of "to eke". In context, "the Pats won 21 to 20" would be considered eking...I'll even go so far as "the Pats won 21 to 18" as eking out a win.However, a NINE point win in a PLAYOFF game is "eeking!!!!!"???? Right,newsflash nitwit....the "eeking" you hear in the distance is coming from the Shady Acres Sanitarium graveyard where a few thousand poor souls with sub 60 I.Q.'s just turned over in their graves "eeking" at your intergalactic stupidity.
As far as your totally ridiculous qualifiers about the Chargers...they had the same exact chance to win when the coin was flipped as the Patriots did.; What happened, happened. Only a complete moron underpins his little sobbing, 5 year girl's logic with "the Chargers started players who were injured!!!!!!"..everybody is banged up by the time they get to a conference championship...it's not the Patriots job to worry about the state of the Chargers roster,it's their job to WIN, they DID that.Their record went to 18-0. Yet all you can squeak like a little rat about is "they eeked!!!!!!" out a win. Guess what Moronstein, a win is a win, especially in the playoffs...obviously this CLUE escapes you...now go get your fuggin' shinebox....
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