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Old 09-28-2011, 05:24 PM   #41
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Newsflash: Belichick didn't forget what makes a good NFL defense. Whatever issues we have are clearly personnel-related.
I think he did. They need players on it. How many sacks, hurries and QB hits are Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley and Nate Solder going to have this year? Ras-I may...may...get one if the run a corner blitz.
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:37 PM   #42
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I blame Polian, Holmgren, Fisher, and Goodell for the collapse of this defense.

They used their influence in the competition committee to turn the NFL we all grew up with into some sort of hybrid fantasy-flag-football points explosion extravaganza.
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I like threads like this, because they do a great job of containing a lot of the insanity that's posted here into a single, easy-to-ignore place

Newsflash: Belichick didn't forget what makes a good NFL defense. Whatever issues we have are clearly personnel-related.
Here is the Patriots rank in defensive passer rating since BB has been here:

2000-22nd
2001-3rd
2002-15th
2003-1st
2004-7th
2005-27th
2006-2nd
2007-11th
2008-23rd
2009-13th
2010-13th
2011-32nd

While in the past we had a bad season of pass defense it was typically quickly corrected. That hasn't been the case the past four years. BB may not have forgotten how to coach defense but there is something definitely wrong in translating that knowledge onto the field. I'll let the sane decide why that is.
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I blame Polian, Holmgren, Fisher, and Goodell for the collapse of this defense.

They used their influence in the competition committee to turn the NFL we all grew up with into some sort of hybrid fantasy-flag-football points explosion extravaganza.
If you haven't noticed lately, press coverage is back. In fact, I think it is this type of coverage that has lead to our problems in the playoffs lately.
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Sorry but that’s a weak argument: ‘he doesn’t know what he’s talking about evidenced by the fact that the Patriots didn’t hire him, and they didn’t hire him because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about’, that’s called circular reasoning.

If you think you can actually refute his points go ahead.
Nonsense. ANYONE can conjecture their way through an argument that seems completely plausible to those of us (i.e., everyone) armed with the sparse info available publicly. My money's on the folks who've been paid millions to win 16 of the Pats' last 20 games.
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Nonsense. ANYONE can conjecture their way through an argument that seems completely plausible to those of us (i.e., everyone) armed with the sparse info available publicly. My money's on the folks who've been paid millions to win 16 of the Pats' last 20 games.
Ok, let me translate: 'we don't have 100% of the information so we cannot make a good judgment, the proof that we cannot make a good judgment is that we don't have 100% of the information".

Wow, you're in love with circular reasoning more than Rex Ryan loves cake.

The proof is in the pudding, we haven't been able to stop the teams we needed to when we needed to in some time. It's on BB.
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One of the most truthful articles I have read in a while. This guy makes plenty of valid points.
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What is a championship defense? It is a defense that belongs to a team that wins the championship. Everything else is just conversation.

While there is no doubt BB has not fielded a dominant defense in several years (and the blame is his - not a DC), ultimately, is the team vying for a championship? We could be Baltimore with its dominant defense and lack of O. The Patriots are in the mix with a small handful of teams seemingly every year. I'd like the D to be better but BB is consistently fielding a highly competitive team that is easy to root for. Let's not lose sight of that......
championship? Who's talking championship? Most would settle for average trending toward good. It's what we have been waiting for while acknowledging aging warriors, new personnel, accepting draft picks that flamed out, dealing w/ growing pains, and now waiting for a new scheme to take hold.
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