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Old 09-26-2011, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Don't care what you say, the defense played very well yesterday...

I don't care what the total yards were. I watched the game and understand the ebb and flow of football. This game is about momentum, and the new NFL means lots of passing yards, almost regardless of your defense. Did anyone notice that the mighty Samuel/Asomugha/Rodgers-Cromartie trio allowed 4 TDs to Eli Manning yesterday?

The Bills came in to the game averaging nearly 40 points per game, playing at home in one of their biggest games of the last decade. The Patriots were missing Pat Chung, Albert Haynesworth, Mike Wright, and Ras-I Dowling. You'd think the Bills would score 50 points, right?

They scored 27 points on offense. In addition, the Patriots forced two turnovers, and many believe it should have been three turnovers (PI call in the end zone.)

The Bills first touchdown drive was extended on a ludicrous late hit call on Dane Fletcher, who put his fingers on Fitz's shoulder pads.

The Bills third touchdown drive was a terrible PI call in the end zone; should have been an interception... instead, the Bills were handed 7 points.

The only drive the defense should be ashamed of is the last one. That is the sign of a weak team; they didn't even make them earn it. Devin McCourty should not be the guy getting burned in the most critical point in the game, nor should he have been dumb enough to tackle FJ on the one-yard line.

But one of the problems with four turnovers isn't just the lack of scoring; it's also the field position, and most importantly, time of possession problems that the defense must absorb. Few defenses would be able to play well late into the second half with that many turnovers from the offense.

I know what the season stats look like as well, but that doesn't tell the entire story either. The defense needs to improve a lot, but really, how many grind-it-out 13-10 games do the Patriots have compared to other teams? None. You can expect tons of yardage against us (as well as lots of turnovers) this year. Teams won't play for field position and field goals against Brady.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: Don't care what you say, the defense played very well yesterday...

I will say the defense played better than what people are making it out to be, but they did not play very well yesterday.

The problem with this defense is consistency. At times, they can shutdown opposing offenses. At other times, they "can't stop a nosebleed".
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Agreed. I do think our D will get there. Let's hope we get some people healthy next week.
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I don't care what the total yards were. I watched the game and understand the ebb and flow of football. This game is about momentum, and the new NFL means lots of passing yards, almost regardless of your defense. Did anyone notice that the mighty Samuel/Asomugha/Rodgers-Cromartie trio allowed 4 TDs to Eli Manning yesterday?

The Bills came in to the game averaging nearly 40 points per game, playing at home in one of their biggest games of the last decade. The Patriots were missing Pat Chung, Albert Haynesworth, Mike Wright, and Ras-I Dowling. You'd think the Bills would score 50 points, right?

They scored 27 points on offense. In addition, the Patriots forced two turnovers, and many believe it should have been three turnovers (PI call in the end zone.)

The Bills first touchdown drive was extended on a ludicrous late hit call on Dane Fletcher, who put his fingers on Fitz's shoulder pads.

The Bills third touchdown drive was a terrible PI call in the end zone; should have been an interception... instead, the Bills were handed 7 points.

The only drive the defense should be ashamed of is the last one. That is the sign of a weak team; they didn't even make them earn it. Devin McCourty should not be the guy getting burned in the most critical point in the game, nor should he have been dumb enough to tackle FJ on the one-yard line.

But one of the problems with four turnovers isn't just the lack of scoring; it's also the field position, and most importantly, time of possession problems that the defense must absorb. Few defenses would be able to play well late into the second half with that many turnovers from the offense.

I know what the season stats look like as well, but that doesn't tell the entire story either. The defense needs to improve a lot, but really, how many grind-it-out 13-10 games do the Patriots have compared to other teams? None. You can expect tons of yardage against us (as well as lots of turnovers) this year. Teams won't play for field position and field goals against Brady.
It all makes sense now. I was on the wrong channel watching a CFL game and not the Patriots. I thought it was strange when the announcer kept saying, "There's another touchdown, Eh."
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I will say the defense played better than what people are making it out to be, but they did not play very well yesterday.

The problem with this defense is consistency. At times, they can shutdown opposing offenses. At other times, they "can't stop a nosebleed".
This......... Perhaps because I was there, there were really ony a few points where I was like "Oh God, this defense sucks". For the most part, they did pretty well, except in the pass rush. Fitz had a ton of time all game, but still he was mostly contained except towards the end of the game. That's not up to the "played very well" level, but it is clearly better then most people think.

Jackson is probably one of the most underated backs in the NFL. He is explosive when he gets the ball, and was at times yesterday.

I came away much more disappointed in the offense and some of the bonehead mistakes they made. Brady & Co. made this weak defense look all world. They aren't.
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Default Re: Don't care what you say, the defense played very well yesterday...

You might get some posters who disagree with you. Actually, I'd have a hard time agreeing. Brady made 4 picks and the defense let Buffalo take the opportunity on 3 of them to score. They were woeful. They allowed a team to recover from a 21 point deficit to win the game. I think they can improve but they were terrible yesterday; avoiding game changing penalties is part of playing defense and is one part where we're usually pretty good but even that was a huge problem yesterday.
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If you do not care what I say, why invite comments that you will not care about???

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It all makes sense now. I was on the wrong channel watching a CFL game and not the Patriots. I thought it was strange when the announcer kept saying, "There's another touchdown, Eh."

Is it #31 or #3 or #1 or #13 ??????

Maybe there is a misplaced digit showing Pats Defense statistically ranked #31 out of #32 NFL teams after 3 games, regardless of the MIA's yesterday.
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The defense was terrible. Brady, despite four interceptions, ties the game up and the defense proceeds to let the Bills offense walk down the field.
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The defense played very well yesterday? BWAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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