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***Sciz*** · 09-23-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by condon84

Being unable to beat your man one-on-one doesn't have anything to do with the system.

It absolutely does. Last season, while Dunlap was focusing on getting to the QB as fast as possible on every snap and possibly tackling the RB if he was in the way and happened to have the ball, Cunningham had to engage his blocker, read the play, and then shed his blocker to either get to the QB or to the RB. It's a heck of a lot harder to get to the QB when you have to read the play first. Hence the difference between "read and react" and "attacking" defensive schemes.

Cunningham had more total pressures than Dunlap last season, but a lot fewer sacks. If Cunningham could fly in at the QB every play like Dunlap, those pressures start turning into sacks...

Ochmed Jones · 09-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

The one good thing about Marvin Lewis is that his system is so simple that players can come out guns smoking when they enter the league. The bad thing is that the simple defense can expose a player's weaknesses and neutralize him after a while.

That is true. A very simple system. All he asks players to do is win the one on one battle in front of them. If they do, the Bengals should win.

The problem is with next to no reads being made by the D Line, it is fairly easy to get plays to the second level.

***Rob0729*** · 09-23-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciz

It absolutely does. Last season, while Dunlap was focusing on getting to the QB as fast as possible on every snap and possibly tackling the RB if he was in the way and happened to have the ball, Cunningham had to engage his blocker, read the play, and then shed his blocker to either get to the QB or to the RB. It's a heck of a lot harder to get to the QB when you have to read the play first. Hence the difference between "read and react" and "attacking" defensive schemes.

I think you said it better than me. I think anyone who ridicules the different systems argument when comparing players don't get get the intricacies of the game. There are just some defenses where d-linemen have no responsibilities other than pin their ears back and try to penetrate the line of scrimage to either get to the QB or the RB.

Marqui · 09-23-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

I think you said it better than me. I think anyone who ridicules the different systems argument when comparing players don't get get the intricacies of the game. There are just some defenses where d-linemen have no responsibilities other than pin their ears back and try to penetrate the line of scrimage to either get to the QB or the RB.

Which is how you get teams like the Colts who have 2 double digit sacks rushers on their edges yet their defense (including their pass D) blows every year.