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Old 04-01-2008, 11:18 AM   #1
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Per Reiss:

"The NFL just announced that the rule proposal to allow a defensive player to wear a communication device in his helmet has been passed by owners.

The vote was 25-7. A total of 24 votes were needed to pass the proposal.

The Patriots were one club that helped sway the vote. The team voted against a similar proposal last year, but voted for it this year.

The proposal last year garenered 22 votes."

Doesnt specify how many players would be allowed to be equiped with this technology.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:28 AM   #2
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Per Reiss:

"The NFL just announced that the rule proposal to allow a defensive player to wear a communication device in his helmet has been passed by owners.

The vote was 25-7. A total of 24 votes were needed to pass the proposal.

The Patriots were one club that helped sway the vote. The team voted against a similar proposal last year, but voted for it this year.

The proposal last year garenered 22 votes."

Doesnt specify how many players would be allowed to be equiped with this technology.

interesting... very recently BB has said he did not want this...now they pretty much assist it to pass

are they trying to help out their image? b/c if so, i dont care, im their fan, and their imagine is fine with me, other teams' fans wont like the pats either way......

btw, if the pats are specified on how they voted, i sure do wish to know which 7 teams did NOT vote for it...otherwise it is very unfair
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interesting... very recently BB has said he did not want this...now they pretty much assist it to pass

are they trying to help out their image? b/c if so, i dont care, im their fan, and their imagine is fine with me, other teams' fans wont like the pats either way......

btw, if the pats are specified on how they voted, i sure do wish to know which 7 teams did NOT vote for it...otherwise it is very unfair
IIRC, BB didn't want this simply because of the way it was being proposed. They wanted only one player in defense to have a helmet radio (since the QB was the only guy on O to have one). However, BB voted against it because he constantly rotates players in and out and there would be times where he wouldn't have his guy with the radio in his helmet on the field.

I have heard that one of the changes to this proposition was to allow two D players to have this radio communication in their helmets. Maybe that's what swayed him because I don't think he really cares about public perception.
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They said this week that 2 players will have the headset. It's not perfect because even with 2 there is no guarantee that one will always be on the field, like the quarterback. I think last year they only wanted 1 player to have the headset.
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My guess is the Pats will go about it the old-fashioned way and just use hand signals. IMO, you will handicap your team if you become too reliant on the helmet. And if you have guys shuffling in and out of the lineup all the time, like the Pats do, it will just cause more of a logistical headache.

You'll find yourself putting a guy on the field not because he is the right player for that play or formation, but simply because he has a wire helmet.
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Maybe I'm just looking into this whole Spygate thing way too much, but...

what's to stop teams from listening in on these communication devices?
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They said this week that 2 players will have the headset. It's not perfect because even with 2 there is no guarantee that one will always be on the field, like the quarterback. I think last year they only wanted 1 player to have the headset.
Can anyone tell me what difference how many players with a headset in their helmet makes? I'm not trying to be a wiseguy but what's the difference between having only two guys with it and having every defensive player with it? I'm just asking because it seems to me it shouldn't matter.
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Can anyone tell me what difference how many players with a headset in their helmet makes? I'm not trying to be a wiseguy but what's the difference between having only two guys with it and having every defensive player with it? I'm just asking because it seems to me it shouldn't matter.

Because usually there isn't one guy on defense who is on the field for every single play like the quarterback is. Having two guys would give you the opportunity to have the headset on the field at all times, like say on one of the lineman, and on that lineman's backup.
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Being the BB homer that I am, I naturally assumed that BB voted it down last year, then spent the year having someone like Ernie identify ways to use the communication tool for some competetive advange.

And now that he's has his plan identified and ready to implement, he votes in favor of the change.
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Because usually there isn't one guy on defense who is on the field for every single play like the quarterback is. Having two guys would give you the opportunity to have the headset on the field at all times, like say on one of the lineman, and on that lineman's backup.
I understand that aspect of it. My question is why can't all the defensive players have it in their helmets? Is it because their expensive and the owners are too cheap? If every defensive player has it, would they even need to huddle up? Maybe I'm being obtuse.
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