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Maybe I'm just looking into this whole Spygate thing way too much, but...
what's to stop teams from listening in on these communication devices?
This will probably be Spygate III.
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I understand that aspect of it. My question is why can't all the defensive players have it in their helmets? Is it because their expensive and the owners are too cheap? If every defensive player has it, would they even need to huddle up? Maybe I'm being obtuse.
I'm not sure, there must be a reason why only the quarterback gets one and has to huddle up to tell everyone else. Maybe its just to cut down on confusion.
"A quick follow-up to the rule change that a defensive player will now be allowed to have a communication device in the helmet:
Two players will be designated before each game, and be listed on the pregame deactivation report as the players with the device. The helmets of those players will have a visual indicator to identify they have the device.
Only one player with the device can be on the field. Whenever the backup user enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire. If the primary user subsequently re-enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire.
If a player fails to notify the appropriate official of a change in his status when required, it will result in a loss of five yards for illegal substitution.
The teams voting against the proposal were: the Packers, Raiders, Eagles, Rams, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Redskins."
Maybe Specter should ask the Eagles why they are in favor of being able to steal signals
Only one player with the device can be on the field. Whenever the backup user enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire. If the primary user subsequently re-enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire.
If only one player can be on the field with the device than why would you evan want a 2nd player to have it, those 2 players then could not be on the field at the sametime??????????
am I missing something?
can they use more than one helmet? one helmet with it and one without???
what about when the coach to player communication breaks down? this is less of a problem on offense because they go at their own pace, the de has to be ready when the offense is. Lets say we are playing peyton and he is in his normal hurry up, by the time the coach knows that the headset didn't work on his first attempt to call the play peyton will be at the line already and there wont be time to hand signal it in. on offense you go when your ready if your not ready in time you get delay of game on defense if your not ready you are no calling a timeout or getting torched....doesn't seem fair (except that all teams have this issue)
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"A quick follow-up to the rule change that a defensive player will now be allowed to have a communication device in the helmet:
Two players will be designated before each game, and be listed on the pregame deactivation report as the players with the device. The helmets of those players will have a visual indicator to identify they have the device.
Only one player with the device can be on the field. Whenever the backup user enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire. If the primary user subsequently re-enters the game wearing a helmet with a speaker, he must report to the umpire.
If a player fails to notify the appropriate official of a change in his status when required, it will result in a loss of five yards for illegal substitution.
The teams voting against the proposal were: the Packers, Raiders, Eagles, Rams, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Redskins."
Maybe Specter should ask the Eagles why they are in favor of being able to steal signals
that is interesting....also the packers, who apparently were robbed of their signals my the pats on multiple occasions....see no reason to fix the problem...hmmmmmmmmmmm
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I read an article in the Boston Globe today saying that, after two failed attempts, defensive players will now be able to wear mics in their helmets. The vote was narrowly passed (25-7, needed 24 to pass). Its weird how i remember almost everything word for word...So yeah, two defensive players will have mics, and im pretty sure they have to be pointed out before the game. do you guys think this has something to do with the signal "stealing" of the patriots?
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I read an article in the Boston Globe today saying that, after two failed attempts, defensive players will now be able to wear mics in their helmets. The vote was narrowly passed (25-7, needed 24 to pass). Its weird how i remember almost everything word for word...So yeah, two defensive players will have mics, and im pretty sure they have to be pointed out before the game. do you guys think this has something to do with the signal "stealing" of the patriots?
They have been talking about this for a while. Before Spygate.
And I don't think its a mic. Its a receiver - you can't talk back to the coach.
If they give it to Vrabel, he will need a different helmet to go out with Brady on offense.
So as i understand it, only one defensive player with a headset can be on the field at a time and you have to designate the two players with headsets before the game, right?
I presume that linebackers will be the primary guys wearing the headsets, so with the way Bill rotates linebackers and uses sub packages, what happens when neither guy is on the field or both of them are on the field?
Say for example that Bruschi and Thomas are the two guys with headsets. I can understand saying tough luck if you take both of them out, but what if both of them are in (the majority on the time)? Does one of them just have to put on a regular helmet? i can't see the Patriots giving a starter like Bruschi a headset and then a backup like Alexander or Woods a headset, seeing as a lot of the time Bruschi comes out on 3rd downs and the backup doesn't necessarily come in. Or do you just pick a guy like Rodney, Vrabel or Warren who plays most snaps and play the odds?
This rule seems like it could be the source of a lot of confusion (or maybe its just me missing something), since with the offensive system you always have a QB in, and you always only have one QB in, however defensive players rotate in and out based on formations and rest, so there's no guarantee one guy will be in while another is out or that either of them will be in.
Sorry if this is a stupid question or overly long and confusing.