Originally Posted by JJDChE
He was the best player in the NFL in 2008/9. IME, the NFL MVP voting has been pretty spot on in the last decade. Manning deserved it as much as anyone. He had a QB rating of 100 in 2009. C'mon, you have to see how ridiculous this assertion is.
According to Approximate value, Manning was the 11th most valuable player in the league in 2009, and the 3rd QB after Rivers and Rodgers. A look at how they did makes it clear that Manning was not the best choice in 2009 for MVP. Manning did finally
show some leadership, but I'm not sure he should have won this one.
In 2008, he wasn't even in the top 13 players, or top 2 QB's. His MVP here is a lifetime achievement award.
In 2006 Tomlinson easily outplayed Manning, who was the 2nd best player in the NFL.
In 2005 Manning was the number #1 QB, but behind 5 other players including E. James from his own team.
In 2004, Manning and James tied at the top of the league. I can see a co-MVP award as the best choice, but his MVP here is reasonable.
In 2003, Manning was the 7th best player in the NFL. His MVP was a reach IMO.
Before that (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002), he wasn't a factor. In 2007, 2008 and 2010 he wasn't a factor either. So this means:
Manning as a factor as top player in the league in: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009 - that pretty much syncs up with my post that says Manning has been in decline. Even if one wants to claim 2004 was a one year unrepeatable peak (Brady has two of those type years, the only QB in league history with two BTW), and that 2005 and 2006 are not decline years, that still gives us 2007, 2008, 2010 - 3 of the last 4 years on a downslope, and in real decline. Manning is done with 100.0+ QB Rating years, and might be done with anything over 92.5 as well. We'll see.
I can see Manning with two MVP's, but the rest of them are based on subjective perception and not fact - and the amateurish mind set that more TD's and Yards make for the best QB - side stepping other concerns such as Manning's propensity to make too many turnovers. Of course those regular season awards do not take into account Manning's whining hysterics in the playoffs - so beautifully seen in January 2004 and 2005 in Foxboro.
Meanwhile MVP of the regular season is not MVP of the playoffs. We see how that's gone so far. I cannot see Manning winning anymore MVP's, but I can see Brady winning more (1-3 including playoffs). If/when that happens, even with Manning's inflated MVP count, Brady will have the lead since playoff MVP's are by definition more important then regular season ones. Also one of Manning's MVP is shared, and so far none of Brady's is - including his unanimous one in 2010.