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As per the article link below. The Pats have shown a little interest. I would consider it for a 1 year prove it deal with absolutely no dead money charges to the salary cap should it not work out (ie. no signing bonus). If any team is going to rehabilitate this clown it is the Pats.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....803080360/1027

JoeSixPat

I don't really want him here, but this is still a good example that talented players in certain circumstances can be had in a low risk, high reward "prove it" one year contract.

Now, for those of you who were aghast that Belichick didn't Franchise Moss, ask yourself how many players would agree to play for the Patriots on a one-year prove it contract knowing that if they did well, they'd likely be franchised too?

The answer of course is "none".

So a franchise tag for Moss would have been the same as closing the door to any type of similar one year signing in the future.

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moosekill

I actually wouldn't be at all surprised if Moss had a "gentleman's" agreement with the Pats when he redid his contract, that the Pats wouldn't tag him.

rhodeislandpatsfan

Absolutly not, Undermines everything the Patriots represent. Maybe he should be allowed to play again when that strip club bouncer fully recovers from the bullet shot and can walk again.

PatsFanInVa

On the face of it, looking back, I wouldn't be surprised.

But the deal wasn't made "looking back." It was made with a proven malcontent, on a terrible team, who had previously taken a dump on his pro bowl QB a time or two in Minnesota.

At the time he had "lost a step", he had caught 7 TDs and 1400 yards worth over two seasons, and he was a high risk prospect on and off the field. Was he the "old" Randy, or "Raiders Randy"?

The whole contract was made to indemnify the Pats from the risk - but no mistake they were rooting for the kid.

Either way I think they did exactly what they should have done. You can franchise a kid looking forward to a great career... but if you get a guy like RM on board, you'll likely affect on-field play by franchising him, thus defeating the purpose (and at a high pay grade.)

I think the "gentleman's agreement" evolved over the season. The Pats aren't stupid, and love Moss; Moss isn't stupid, and loves winning.

But the Randy they were looking at in April 07? They knew nothing.

PFnV

Canada's #1 Pats Fan

So did Dillon and Moss. But you are right, I forgot about the guy with the bullet wound. Not trying to justify it, was it Pac man that pulled the trigger? I don't believe it was.

primetime

The Patriots represent a football team I root for, nothing more and nothing less. If OJ Simpson was in his prime as the best RB in NFL history, I'd take him on the Patriots despite the obvious. If Pacman is capable of playing to the level of unbridled potential he showed coming out of West Virginia and flashed with the Titans, I'd want him here in an instant, especially with a zero-risk contract.

As for the dead bouncer, it was one of Pacman's entourage, not him, who pulled the trigger, though he bears responsibility for creating the situation. Either way, that has no bearing on his football talent. If you're looking at football players as anything more than football players, you need to be examined.

JoeSixPat

It's even beyond a gentleman's agreement (and I assume you're talking about re-doing his contract last year, not this year) as the Patriots wouldn't really need to enter into a "gentleman's agreement" not to destroy their ability to attract guys in Moss' situation in the future.

It'd be like saying "we agree not to hamstring our own efforts to sign short term talented free agents in the future" - but of course that didn't stop a huge number of fans for questioning whether Belichick had gone temporarilly insane for not tagging Moss.

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PatsFanInVa

Well, 72 hours of free agency had passed. That's a lot of time with the sky around your ankles.

bigjunk1

I don't buy it. This guy is poison. And Mr. and Mrs. Kraft have a brand that they are trying to market. No way that they would allow this guy on the team, even if it was something BB or Pioli wanted.

The risk/reward factors for Moss and Dillon were much higher than with this guy.

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