LB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-14-2008, 01:35 PM   #1
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 
signbabybrady's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Foxboro
Posts: 8,291
My Mood: Buzzed
Default LB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

I think there is a big Myth out there that BB and Pioli don't adress the MLB position.

They just don't do it via the draft.

Since BB and Pioli came here they have Found 3 stud LBers via Free Agency, Vrabel, Colvin, and Thomas. It may be early to call Thomas a stud but still.

Than add in guys Like Cox, Phifer, Seau....
That is 6 really good LBers, I wouldn't exactly call that ignoring the position.

When you consider the talented LBers that were already here Willie, TJ, Bru....there has actually probably been more talented players at that position than any other position on the team.

Think about it our LBing core has been one of the strenghts of this team year in and year out yet we always want to get more. Guess that is the nature of the beast.

Now I am not saying I don't want a young LBer that could possibly be here for 10 seasons but I don't think this has been a position that has been neglected the way some people around here like to think.
__________________
"We go down to New Orleans, and ain't anybody give us a chance? Nobody! And what did we say to them?"

"DON'T TALK TO ME!!!"
signbabybrady is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 02-14-2008, 01:38 PM   #2
In the Starting Line-up
 
oldskool138's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,558
My Mood: Goofy
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

LOL I thought you were talking about Babe Ruth calling the home run at Wrigley Field type myth. Wrong MLB.
__________________
You can't be two feet tall and expect to take over the world...unless you're Doug Flutie. -MST3K
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"You're all a bunch yahoos, hero worshipers and gutless suck-ups." - Tony Massarotti
oldskool138 is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:42 PM   #3
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 
TripleOption's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ma
Posts: 1,210
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Quote:
Originally Posted by signbabybrady View Post
I think there is a big Myth out there that BB and Pioli don't adress the MLB position.

They just don't do it via the draft.

Since BB and Pioli came here they have Found 3 stud LBers via Free Agency, Vrabel, Colvin, and Thomas. It may be early to call Thomas a stud but still.

Than add in guys Like Cox, Phifer, Seau....
That is 6 really good LBers, I wouldn't exactly call that ignoring the position.

When you consider the talented LBers that were already here Willie, TJ, Bru....there has actually probably been more talented players at that position than any other position on the team.
Vrabel, Colvin and McGinest are not MLB or ILB. Thomas played mostly at OLB.
__________________
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

--Robert J. Hanlon
TripleOption is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:52 PM   #4
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
fgssand's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Foxboro
Posts: 4,646
My Mood: Psychedelic
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleOption View Post
Vrabel, Colvin and McGinest are not MLB or ILB. Thomas played mostly at OLB.
I think he meant all Lb's and he is right......we do have now and have always had one hell of a group of linebackers.

By the way Thomas played inside much of this year and Vrable can be found inside quite often as well - as injury & need dictates.

No question, it would be great if we could find a young, smart stud LB'er to star from day one - maybe, picking #7 this is the year or maybe the Big "O" Oscar is the guy, who knows.

Man, it's nice to see a football post.
__________________
Season ticket holder since 1971, first in section 209 and now in 134.

LOVE New England sports....10 years SEVEN championships!!!
fgssand is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:12 PM   #5
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,935
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Too early to call Thomas a stud? He was the best player on the defense in the biggest game of the year.
primetime is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:19 PM   #6
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 
TripleOption's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ma
Posts: 1,210
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgssand View Post
I think he meant all Lb's and he is right......we do have now and have always had one hell of a group of linebackers.

By the way Thomas played inside much of this year and Vrable can be found inside quite often as well - as injury & need dictates.

No question, it would be great if we could find a young, smart stud LB'er to star from day one - maybe, picking #7 this is the year or maybe the Big "O" Oscar is the guy, who knows.

Man, it's nice to see a football post.
He said "MLB", which is the Mike LB or Middle LB.

Thomas was brought over after spending the bulk of his time at OLB. Vrabel has been and OLB/DE his whole career and was only moved to ILB for a short time due to injuries.
__________________
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

--Robert J. Hanlon
TripleOption is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:50 PM   #7
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 
signbabybrady's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Foxboro
Posts: 8,291
My Mood: Buzzed
Default Re: MLB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleOption View Post
He said "MLB", which is the Mike LB or Middle LB.

Thomas was brought over after spending the bulk of his time at OLB. Vrabel has been and OLB/DE his whole career and was only moved to ILB for a short time due to injuries.
he was right though I had posted about ILB on another thread and it was on my mind when I started this one...I did mean just LBs and will change the title now.
__________________
"We go down to New Orleans, and ain't anybody give us a chance? Nobody! And what did we say to them?"

"DON'T TALK TO ME!!!"
signbabybrady is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 05:04 PM   #8
On the Roster
 
cornhuskers_2002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 88
Default Re: LB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

There aren't that many ILB'ers that can play this defense that have come out in the past 5 years. There are not many people who can play it well.

Last edited by cornhuskers_2002; 02-14-2008 at 05:08 PM..
cornhuskers_2002 is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 05:08 PM   #9
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 
TripleOption's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ma
Posts: 1,210
Default Re: LB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

Quote:
Originally Posted by cornhuskers_2002 View Post
The position of ILB is dieing
Not really. An MLB in a 4-3 or even some 4-3 OLB's would do nicely. Hell, a smart 3-4 OLB like Vrabel can fit. The Tampa 2 teams tend to have smaller faster LB's, more like bigger Safeties. They wouldn't fit.

Zach Thomas or Morgan would fit right in. If only the Pats had the low pick last year. Pat Willis would have been real nice to grab.

I would think that players like Kawika Mitchell, Ray Lewis, Keith Brooking, James Farrior, EJ Henderson etc...would fit in physically. Then it all comes down to their football smarts.
__________________
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

--Robert J. Hanlon

Last edited by TripleOption; 02-14-2008 at 05:13 PM..
TripleOption is offline  
Old 02-14-2008, 05:18 PM   #10
On the Roster
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Delft, Netherlands
Posts: 79
My Mood: Amazed
Default Re: LB myth: BB and Pioli don't adress

As you might know, BB likes his LBs experienced, who have seen almost everything, so they can digest the defensive playbook more easily. This rules out some draftee busting into the line-up in his rookie season. And due to the fact that the Pats base defense is the 3-4, they don't have MLBs, but ILBs. We've seen Chad Brown yo-yoing between the Pats roster and the street and even Pittsburgh the last couple of season. It's very hard to find the right guys to play ILB in the Patriots defense. Why do you think BB made that phone call to Seau when the man had retired from the Chargers only a day earlier?
We'll have to look at the current depth chart to find who will be ILB in 2008, because the only alternatives are FA guys who have played at Pittsburgh, San Diego, or Dallas (the teams that are running the 3-4 as well).
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
**No better bling than a SuperBowl ring - or two, or three . . . **
VJ11 is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563