PatsWickedPissah

Brady retired? Who knew?

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TruthSeeker

I was on the Troy Brown bandwagon early on and have to agree with the consensus.

Gunnails

Grogan caught my eye back in the day, loved the way he played the game.

Rob0729

Tedy! He encompasses everything that the Pats were about during the Dynasty era. He was a guy who was too small and two slow who came in and overachieved while putting the team and winning over his overall personal glory.

Holy Diver

I was going with the '/out of league'


as in....


he's out of everyone's league.


no comment on Eugene Chung?

randomk1

lulz nice comeback

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JMarr

I'll go with the somewhat obscure DB Fred Marion. Always liked him for some reason.

I was just a kid, but I have vague memories of him being a big, smart, hard-hitting SOB who was part enforcer, part team leader on defense. (Like Rodney in some ways).

Vague memory of 1985 playoff game against the Raiders (I believe) where the Pats beat them on their home field and the stunned crowd went nuts after the game, some of them storming the field. Some fans plus some Raider players started surrounding the owner (Kiam?) who was on the field celebrating Jerry Jones style. They all backed off when Marion came over and made his presence felt.

jmt57

I'm going to assume you are referring to when Matt Millen sucker punched Patrick Sullivan after Sullivan had been heckling Howie Long for much of that game.



Earlier in the week Long, who is originally from Charlestown and later moved to Milford, had made some remarks about Boston natives supporting the other area pro teams but not the Patriots. Sullivan, who always watched the game from the field rather than from up above, gave Long more and more crap as the game went on. After the game was over Long came over and pulled back his arm as if he was going to punch Sullivan, just to make him flinch. Millen, apparently unaware of Long's intentions, thought a real fight was about to erupt and walloped Sullivan.

There were reports that Sullivan was inebriated, but that's somewhat irrelevant. The funny thing is that Millen was excoriated nationwide in all but one place: the New England area, because the people here couldn't stand Billy Sullivan's son.

If anybody's interested you can read a little more on the incident here Matt Millen Punch | Recalling the Punch : Matt Millen Doesn't Look Back in Anger - Los Angeles Times and here's another article on Fred Marion: Marion was prepared to tackle life after football - The Boston Globe. That game was the one that led to the "Squish the Fish" game in which the Patriots finally beat the Dolphins in Miami in the AFCCG, preventing Shula and Marino from returning to the Super Bowl - and the Pats, rather than Dolphins became the sacrificial lamb for the juggernaut that was the '85 Chicago Bears in the SB.

Armen Da Pats Fan

If I had to just pick one, it would be Steve Grogan...

But, if we're talking rankings of retired/out of the league guys, then...

Offense:

Steve Grogan
Troy Brown
Stanley Morgan
Corey Dillon/Antowan Smith
Ben Coates


Defense:

Tedy Bruschi
Steve Nelson
Rodney Harrison
Ty Law
Andre Tippett

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PatsWickedPissah

LIFETIME Patriots players
Corey Dillon? Antowain Smith? Rodney Harrison? Ty Law??? WTF?
Homey don't think so.

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Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck." RAH