spacecrime

I agree with you and will go one step further.

Is he really in freakish shape? So far, we have his agent telling us what great shape he is in. Is that reall a trusted source

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BillBelichickFan79

Not a chance.

I joined Felger's anti-Moss crusade during the 09 season and never looked back. Felger was 100% right about this guy. Glad to see more people are coming around to the idea that the Pats were better off without him. Addition by subtraction.

His ego/Randy Ratio effect on offense combined with his declining speed/skill and inability to transform into a guy that will go over the middle consistently makes him extremely unattractive. He's always been a one dimensional player and can't run by every DB in the league anymore on a fly route.

Regardless of talent, Brady was so much more efficient and effective without Moss. The team was better without Moss. The offense was much less predictable, much more diversified, much harder to scheme for, much more efficient (especially late in games).

If we are going after a cheap veteran with a cheap on their shoulder for an incentive-laden deal, I'd rather take a shot at Plax. The guy didn't like to practice and had some issues, but he was a gamer on Sundays. He always showed up, gave 100%, had a knack for the clutch/big play. Plus his game was never built on deep speed like Moss.

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Moss has always had an impressive offseason workout regimen, and has consistently come into camp in excellent shape. I don't see how this would be any huge departure from the norm, seems like it's just his agent trying to drum up interest.

TealSox

Agreed.

I don't recall his physical condition being to blame for last seasons failures. Motivation, maybe... and a talented, motivated player is something that Belichick has built his career out of.

See Rodney Harrison. Junior Seau. Mike Vrbal. Ted Washington. Corey Dillon. Wes Welker. Randy Moss 1.0. ETC

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I appreciated Moss when he was here...excepting his behaviour starting after game one last season. The word was that in 2010 camp Moss was in career best shape. I went to camp and he looked in uber shape to me. Did well in the drills and was enthusiastic.

BUT...

And this is the issue with Moss. He let his demons ride him. Feeling dissed without a contract extension he became more and more of a headache. I believe that BB and the staff had begun to build the offense NOT around Randy realizing the HOF Brady was spending too mush attention in one direction, a tendency that made the Pats easy to game plan against by the better DCs in the league and resulted in too many INTs. As the season wore on both BB and Brady tired of the incessant major effort it took to keep Randy's head in gear. Took too much time and effort away from other necessities. Once BB knew that Brady would not melt down were Randy to go he went ahead and made the trade deal, a better one than he could have expected.

NFW that BB and Brady are even going to try a re-do here. Were Randy a stable personality and in control of his own psyche, they'd sign him up for 2 years but they know that when the going gets tough and max coaching and QB attention is required for the munitia of game prep, Randy's demons will likely arise and consume time and energy needed elsewhere.

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Branch's play or effort on the field was never questioned. Moss was moved because his diva ego was not worth the hassle after he was was already phased out of the offense. The Branch situation was purely contractual.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie

Patriots move on from Moss for the same reason the Raiders did. If Moss can do half as well the last time he had something to prove it will be a heck of a season.

Randy Moss only gave a crap about his performance two seasons in his entire career--1998 after being insulted by the Cowboys and 2007.

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How about... **** no.

MoLewisrocks

Well put, although for me there were subtle signs of the potential to disconnect as far back as down the stretch in 2007 (after the incident in Florida) and in 2008 (which was somewhat understandable given the loss of Brady) and deeper signs down the stretch in 2009. When Brady and Welker routinely took to the postgame poduim and basically focused on the need for players to push through whatever your issues might be and rise up mantra...it was clear to me they were primarily attempting to send a thinly veiled message to Randy. And it was impossible to send it directly since that had already necessitated a private apology call after one particularly heated practice...

Bill gravitates towards self motivated players for a reason. They drain fewer organizational resources and make it easier for coaches to focus on limited areas of concern.