Fencer

Per Mike Reiss, the confidential labor talks include Goodell plus five owners, one of them Kraft, and Smith plus five players, one of them Vrabel.

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PatsWickedPissah

So Vrabes is gonna ask Kraft for some of that Patriots Place revenue again?

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Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck." RAH

PatsFanSince74

With Hunt and Mara at one end, Richardson and Spanos at the other and Kraft in the middle, you have enough old guard and new guard juice in that room to get a deal done from the owners' side. If those five guys can agree on a settlement, it's hard to imagine it not getting two thirds of the owners to back it.

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tuckeverlasting

thankfully it's not that crotchety old f@#$ alex spanos. talk about a misfit, he'd be a real fly in the ointment.

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