Originally Posted by PonyExpress

I recently rewatched Tarkenton's pathetic performance in Sb IX. This clown has no business in the HOF. He was gimmick, 5'10'' scat back with a pop-gun arm who choked in every big game he played in. No wonder he loves P. Manning. I guess all the money from his infomercials dried up, so he's raising his profile by biting the boots of his betters.

Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly

46/89 489 yds 1 TD 6 Int QB rating 43.7
Tarkenton's stats for 3 Super Bowls.....

Originally Posted by RayClay

Quite possibly the biggest choke artist of all time.

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Ok, but you have 0 Super Bowls, so why do you even bother posting your take on things? If the Super Bowl performances are what it's all about, you're opinion is absolutely useless to anyone.

It's one thing to ignore the man's opinion. It's another to denigrate his opinion on a game being played in 2 weeks because he struggled in Super Bowls 30 years ago.

Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly

46/89 489 yds 1 TD 6 Int QB rating 43.7 Tarkenton
71/108 735 yds 6 TD 1 Int QB rating 99.88 Brady

No it means I have more faith in the guy with better numbers in his first 3 Super Bowls.....

Originally Posted by billikens

You forgot the most important Super Bowl stat.

0-3 Tarkenton
3-0 Brady

Originally Posted by Menlo

Although, we pats fans wear our homers blinders 24/7, we need to recognize the points these guys are trying to make some times. I hate Mecury Morris with a passion but I can't disagree with what he means when he speak of perfection. I agreed with him when he said that perfection is all about the 0 in the loss column, its not about how many games you won. We can't fault the 72 phins for playing who they were assigned to play and following the policy. Whos to say if the season was expanded for two more games, they wouldn't have won those extra two and be standing at 19-0 today? We are lucky to be doing this in modern era where the full season required 19 games to be played, assuming you make it to the sb and win, but that doesn't mean its more impressive than 17-0. It just means we were giving more opportunities to make history happens....just my 2 c


Wiz of Menlo

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA;764349
Fran says that while the Patriots were destroying teams earlier during the last part of the season the Patriots were an average team and looked sluggish and tired from the pressure that has been building week after week during the past 2 months

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8-0 in the last half of the season is pretty good for ' an average team"[/COLOR]

He said that Brady has been terrible in several games late in the season especially the Eagles and Ravens game and was just tossing the ball up for grabs and looked tired and beaten at times while he said Peyton looked better during this stretch.
>>>In the last 7 games of the regular season, Peyton 15 TD, 4 Int. Brady 17 TD, 4 Int. I would go back 8 games but that was Peyton's 6 INT game and I didn't want to be accused of skewing stats. That doesn't even account for Peyton playing in a dome and Tom Brady playing outside in the Northeast in December and January, Somebody ought to tell Francis that Mr. Brady wasn't 'tossing the ball up' in Baltimore, it was because of 40 mile an hour gusts and he looked so terrible that he led late game winning drives.
Maybe I missed the Jacksonville game but 26/28 with the two incompletes being catchable doesn't qualify as tossing the ball up there.

He goes on to say the Giants are fresher and have less to lose and he predicts a Giants upset.
>>>>The Pats had a bye week by virtue of HFA. By kickoff of the Super Bowl, they will have played two games in 35 days, that's pretty fresh to me. This compares to the Giants who will have played three games in the 35 days as well as games every week for 11 weeks and this Sunday will be their first week off since week 8. How can he say with a straight face that the Giants will be fresher. The last time they played the Patriots, they lost three starters to injury.
Another washed up old fart QB who must have got together with the '72 Dolphins for a chat just prior to this rant -

Does this idiot Tarkenton (who I always thought was overated when I was a young kid and watching him lose those all those Super Bowls) really have a leg to stand on when criticizing what may very well be the most important game in Patriots history and a defining moment for one of the greatest QBs of all time at the still young age of 30.
>>>>>Uh, no.

All I can say is...Jealousy,Jealousy,Jealousy

Originally Posted by sanvara

Just because he doesn't think the same way you do about who will win a game doesn't mean he's a bad human being or that what he did as a player should be disrespected.