Patspsycho

Noticed a lot of whining and complaints about what we did tonight. Very few understand the value of piling up 2nd round picks (there is a huge dropoff between 1st round and 2nd round salaries).

Consider this:

Pats can now conduct a Mallett-Dalton-Kaepernick auction | ProFootballTalk

Note some of the comments:

Apparently the grass does seem greener on the other side of the fence to them. If only they knew there are an equal amount of whiners on this side of the fence.

strongside

But wouldn't it have made more sense to draft at 28 if this 33 pick is going to get a 1st rd pick in a better spot then the one we got from NO? The teams that need a QB all suck and will next year. Plus you get a better player at 28.

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WhiZa

You don't know that until a team calls you like NO did at 28. They were enamored with Ingram, but not as much as someone would be with Mallet or Dalton.

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AndyJohnson

Every pick has its own value. If what you are offered is more valuable than the guy you will pick, then you trade it.
If we get a later 2nd plus a 2012 #1 for 33, then we win twice.
I don't know why we would pass up a good deal, just because we think we will get another good deal.

strongside

I would agree and I think BB knew at 28 that there was nobody knocking w/ a 1st rder for 33 which is why he pulled the trigger. I could live with that explanation.

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Gwedd

This. It also depends upon whether we want anyone that's available at that slot. Discretion is often the better part of any transaction.

DaBruinz

people seem to forget a few things:

1) Teams have to want to make a trade.

2) I am 100% confident that the NO trade was the best one the Pats were presented with at 28.

3) Many people stated that the Pats would probably get more for the 33 pick than they would for the 28 pick because of the change in the draft format and with the numerous QB needy teams. And with Ryan Mallett on the board, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats move down just 5-6 slots while picking up a 2012 2nd round pick also. And that pick could end up being in the top 10 of the 2nd round again.

Patspsycho

The top few picks of the 2nd round are still considered first round talent but with the value of 2nd round salary, so it is not necessarily true that a player at #28 would be better than #33 or even #41. The players we are targeting are apparently still available, if we traded out.

If we trade out of 33, we will only go down a few picks (e.g., Bengals, Cards, Titans, Redskins all of who are looking for QB's). We will still have a 2nd round plus a combination of numerical valued picks, either for this year or 2012.

Whether or not teams who want a QB suck is of no concern to us.

AndyJohnson

Thats one of the problems with a board like this and the draft.
Everyone reads and studies and decides who they want to pick, and get all excited that they could be right. Then they forget that they are basing their opinion on about 4% of the information BB has at his disposal, so when they get upset because he had the chance to draft 'their guy' he must be an idiot.

We actually have people posting on this board that think Bill Belichick used the 17th pick in the draft on a guy who is a project impliyng he is a longshot to start in the league. As if BB doesnt have a clue what the 17thy pick should get you.
Another poster said the team got no better today, after picking the 17th best player in the draft.
Its too much emotion and not enough thought.

PatsDeb

Every year it's the same. We fans hope for a big splash and we are underwhelmed when the Pats pick somebody that all the "experts" have in the 2nd or 3rd round and that no one was thinking about. Tomorrow the Pats will be in the "reach" or "draft losers" column of all the "experts" Two years from now they will be in the "steal of the draft" column and the player at issue will be in the "perennial pro bowler" category.

I know this is not exactly how it goes, but this is what happens a lot. Somehow it always works out, at least in the BB era. Let's see how it goes.