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Old 01-16-2008, 09:17 PM   #1
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:22 PM   #2
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To to be unbias.
First, you're in a Pats forum. It would probably be unbiased in an NFL forum. But I would say Chargers, of course.
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I would give pats edge on DL and SD the edge on CBs

Safeties and LBs pats have edge of veteran-knowledgeable guys - SD has edge of younger more athletic guys.

So it is a bit of a toss-up. For consistency over the 16 game season you have to give it to the Pats. If you just look trend-wise at Nov-Jan you could make an argument for SD.

Trouble is all that they didnt face quality opposition argument starts to get into chicken or egg (were they bad teams or did they get help to look bad when they got beat by SD)

I think they are both quality D; Edge goes to Pats in the end cause we have BB and they dont. He makes average guys play within a system and be superior to better athletes.
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I would give pats edge on DL and SD the edge on CBs

Safeties and LBs pats have edge of veteran-knowledgeable guys - SD has edge of younger more athletic guys.

So it is a bit of a toss-up. For consistency over the 16 game season you have to give it to the Pats. If you just look trend-wise at Nov-Jan you could make an argument for SD.

Trouble is all that they didnt face quality opposition argument starts to get into chicken or egg (were they bad teams or did they get help to look bad when they got beat by SD)

I think they are both quality D; Edge goes to Pats in the end cause we have BB and they dont. He makes average guys play within a system and be superior to better athletes.

Pats D ranked #4 in PA.....nuff said
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The Patriots D is very good, but I think with the team having such an overwhelmingly good offense, they get overlooked.

I am a Charger fan so I could say that two of our rejects are actually starting for you guys, but that would not be entirely fair. I was upset when Rodney Harrison left. He had a lot left in the tank and is good locker room guy. The only thing I don't miss is the high number of dumb late hit penatlies he would get. I was glad to see Seau go. He was a liabilty against the run. He would make one or two highlight hits every game, but his tackles were way down and he was always shooting a gap and overrunning plays and chasing running backs from behind. I like Wilhelm and Cooper (16 tackles last week) over Seau.

I would say NE has better players, but most of them are past their primes, while many of the Charger players are still entering theirs.

Slight edge to SD.
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I would say NE has better players, but most of them are past their primes, while many of the Charger players are still entering theirs.
I suppose when teams have players past their primes, that's when they go 17-0, yea I forgot that little tidbit
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I would say NE has better players, but most of them are past their primes,
list, plz.

and if your d is so great why couldn't you hold anyone down this year?
pats were among the league leaders in pts allowed and yds allowed.
chargers....not so much.
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list, plz.

and if your d is so great why couldn't you hold anyone down this year?
pats were among the league leaders in pts allowed and yds allowed.
chargers....not so much.
Let's see
Seymour
Wilfork
Warren
Adalius
Asante
Ellis Hobbs
Sanders

are all past their prime 7 of our 11 starters on D. Because Vrabel 32, Harrison 34, Bruschi 34, Seau 38 are older, we are way over our prime and only finished with a #4 ranked D in PA

We're dooomed against the vaunted Chargers
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list, plz.

and if your d is so great why couldn't you hold anyone down this year?
pats were among the league leaders in pts allowed and yds allowed.
chargers....not so much.
Maybe you should fact check first?
Points allowed Patriots: 274, there were three teams with lower numbers and not by much. San Diego wasn't one of them.
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