crowell33

Wow. Your for a 10 team NFL ? Five teams in each conference fighting to get to the Superbowl? Interesting.

bucky

See, the word "you" wasn't meant to be taken literally. It was in reference to all the NFL players and what their lives would be like if the NFL just ceased to exist.

PatsFanSince74

I didn't read all of your rant, but....um...the Union isn't asking for more money, the owners are. The Union is trying to determine how much it is fair for them to give up, off their current agreement, in the future. The owners wanted a billion more off the top without offering proof of the circumstances that compelled them to make this request. The Union wants them to demonstrate those circumstances. Sounds reasonable to me.

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I would rather have it this way than the way it is now. MLB still has the draft.

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upstater1

You honestly think for a second Marc Cuban and Donald Trump wouldn't be all over them in a second with cash on hand?

bucky

To do what? I understand Brady might have some celebrity value. But what are they going to pay Merriweather or Connolly for?

olschool

Sure. If you had Sunday ticket, would you watch a 3-11 Bills team, play a 3-11 Bengals team in December ? I don't think that their diehard fans would even watch it.

The Patriots almost went to St.Louis. If it wasn't for Kraft, and his billions, we would be Giants fans, like back in the fifties.

Good owners make a difference. Let the best teams survive, and it'll be a better game.

The league could lose Buffalo, Houston, Arizona, Cincinatti, Tennesee, Jacksonville, Seattle, Detroit, Minnesota, Oakland, Cleveland and Carolina, and it wouldn't faze me in the least.

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DW Toys

Look the little Big Shot with the hat had no plan to negotiate or do anything other than Decertify.
The league offered to have independent accounting firms that each side agreed on purvey the books while keeping proprietary information like if said owner might use his revenue to supplement other businesses, and keep that under an NDA. This assures the NFLPA just the actual incoming receipts and not personal ownership business. I could care less if Bob Kraft pays millions of dollars to his relatives for employment but why should he be told by the little guy in the hat how to run his business. It's not about all of the owners books , it is about assets received and football expense removed. Can the players judge if Kraft takes a Salary of $3M and Jerry Jones $5M and Bidwell takes $1m? What the NFLPA is saying is we will judge what your actual "down" revenues are during the last CBA to determine if we have a fair deal. As Kraft says he doesn't want anyone to tell him how to run his business (Bob you should only take $1m so it's fair!). So in order to do what the NFLPA wants to get them their fair deal even though it seems none of them were underpaid by the last CBA and you are right, the don't want more money, they want to make sure the owners are regulated.........in a private company. But in the end their percentage of the pie raises as revenue does so without question they want more money.

This is not about every team owner in the NFL. It is the fact that some have had financial down times during the last CBA. The league wants an adjustment but the NFLPA wants to justify it. As of yesterday the league said fine, lets hire independent auditors agreed by both sides and pick and choose within reason what we want to reveal whereas it does not cross over each individual owners business procedures. THE NFLPA TURNED THAT DOWN. If there can be an across the board determination of what those required terms would be as a blanket format, this is all that should have been countered yesterday and the NFLPA choose not to.....Why? Because they know if they go to Doty they can get everything they want like CAP rules, no franchise tags or tender rules and basically they get to run the businesses of the owners.....because the NFLPA refused to negotiate. The NFLPA is rewarded by a full court win that brings the League back to a secondary court and the chase is on. The little dude in the hat makes a name for himself in politics and is offered a judgeship or something like that by our President. Is that not a fair statement?

I don't like the owners but I now can't stand the players because of that S.O.B. who wants us to continue to "dig" our sport. Do you think that the players care for us one bit? Say yes and you would be wrong then.


Remember this tag line for the fight:
The players do not care about the fans, the owners have to.
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townes

And fans like you don't care about the players, so it's a good thing they look out for themselves.

When owners are using increased expenses as the justification for the players to give back a big sum of money in a new deal then how they use their cut is the critical point in their own argument. If they are being honest and the money has gone to improving their NFL product then they have a good case, however if they are using it as you describe then they have no case and the players have no reason to agree to the deal.

bucky

Here's the thing. The owners are the ones who are responsible for growing the revenues - with things like the NFL network, TV contracts, games in London, Chinese web sites, 18 game schedule, etc. The owners have done an incredibly good job at it - to the point where the NFL generates the most $$$ of any sports league in the world while playing the least number of games. Thins about that. The NFL is made up of some pretty darn good business people. Now, the players are claiming they don't trust the owners because they are not willing to completely open up the books and show them all their dirty little secrets.