Think the owners are being the stubborn ones? Think again - New England Patriots Forums

***Rob0729*** · 03-11-2011, 07:07 PM

Here is the last proposal by the league to the NFLPA (via PFT):

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. We more than split the economic difference between us, increasing our proposed cap for 2011 significantly and accepting the Union’s proposed cap number for 2014 ($161 million per club).
2. An entry level compensation system based on the Union’s “rookie cap” proposal, rather than the wage scale proposed by the clubs. Under the NFL proposal, players drafted in rounds 2-7 would be paid the same or more than they are paid today. Savings from the first round would be reallocated to veteran players and benefits.
3. A guarantee of up to $1 million of a player’s salary for the contract year after his injury – the first time that the clubs have offered a standard multi-year injury guarantee.
4. Immediate implementation of changes to promote player health and safety by
a. Reducing the off-season program by five weeks, reducing OTAs from 14 to 10, and limiting on-field practice time and contact;
b. Limiting full-contact practices in the preseason and regular season; and
c. Increasing number of days off for players.
5. Commit that any change to an 18-game season will be made only by agreement and that the 2011 and 2012 seasons will be played under the current 16-game format.
6. Owner funding of $82 million in 2011-12 to support additional benefits to former players, which would increase retirement benefits for more than 2000 former players by nearly 60 percent.
7. Offer current players the opportunity to remain in the player medical plan for life.
8. Third party arbitration for appeals in the drug and steroid programs.
9. Improvements in the Mackey plan, disability plan, and degree completion bonus program.
10. A per-club cash minimum spend of 90 percent of the salary cap over three seasons.

I think that came from Jeff Pash's press conference.

NFL’s summary of its final proposal to the players | ProFootballTalk

billdog3484 · 03-11-2011, 07:09 PM

i HATE UNIONS UGHGHHGH

***Rob0729*** · 03-11-2011, 07:14 PM

BTW, if these concession are true, the NFLPA may have miscalculated with their decertification move. If the NFL can prove in court that this offer was a good faith effort to negotiate with the players, the courts could force the players to accept this proposal as is.

LiveShot · 03-11-2011, 07:14 PM

If that is the real deal offered to the players then they are morons to not accept it. Without football 25-40% of them will end up flipping hamburgs or washing other peoples' vehicles.

***Deus Irae*** · 03-11-2011, 07:30 PM

Yes, the owners are being the stubborn ones. They could have gotten an extension just by agreeing to audited reviews of their finances.

BradyBranch39 · 03-11-2011, 07:34 PM

the union chose to go after the 1 thing they knew they wouldn't get.

they are in fact the stubborn ones.

Triumph · 03-11-2011, 07:37 PM

They are both stubborn

***Deus Irae*** · 03-11-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyBranch39

the union chose to go after the 1 thing they knew they wouldn't get.

they are in fact the stubborn ones.

Demanding players take a pay/income cut without justifying it is what brought this on. That's on the owners.

Having said that, the 3rd party arbitration item is something I've been calling for. It's good to see that one out there.

SteveBsFan · 03-11-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumph

They are both stubborn

Agreed. Just because the owners made movement in the end doesn't make them not stubborn. Asking for an extra billion dollars a year is a huge starting point, it's no wonder they had a lot of wiggle room.

It's frustrating to see. On one hand there wouldn't be a league without the owners, but the other hand fans don't pay to see the owners, they pay to see the players. I understand the players not wanting to get screwed here, but let's be real, this is a dream gig for them. It's not like people are asking them to take this massive pay cut. They were getting a solid deal and just got greedy.

In the end, it's not about the owners or players, it's about the fans. We're the customers, and we're getting the complete shaft. Both sides are making money off the deal, but we're the ones who have to suffer.

I'm growing real tired of CBA drama in sports.

***Deus Irae*** · 03-11-2011, 08:10 PM

For those bagging on the players, check out this article and take a look at some of the shenanigans MLB owners were up to.

NFL owners' claims aren't yet an open book

A couple of items:

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In May, divorce court records showed that two sons of Dodgers owner Frank McCourt were on the payroll for a combined $600,000, though one was reportedly enrolled at Stanford business school and the other worked for Goldman Sachs in New York.

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Records also showed the team was charging itself $14 million in rent on land it already owned;

The NFL owners tried to screw the players with the broadcasting contracts. Why should the players blindly trust that NFL owners aren't pulling the same sorts of shenanigans that MLB owners are?