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Old 01-13-2008, 03:42 PM   #1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miguel View Post
From looking at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/footb...terstitialskip

I am GUESSING that the below players had NLTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.

Evans, Heath $50,000
Gaffney, Jabar $525,000
Harrison, Rodney $250,000
Hochstein, Russ $405,000
Light, Matt $200,000
Meriweather, Brandon $1,125,000
Mitchell, Mel $750,000
Moss, Randy $2,000,000
Neal, Steve $100,000
Seau, Junior $400,000
Stallworth, Donte' $400,000
Vrabel, Mike $350,000
Washington, Kelley $2,000,000
Yates, Billy $550,000
Total of $9,105,000
I am GUESSING that the below players had LTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.
Seau, Junior $100,000
Vrabel, Mike $500,000
Eckel, Kyle Eckel $5,600,000
Total of $6.2 million

If the amount of reached NLTBE and reached LTBE incentives is less than $6.2 million, then the Patriots will get a credit on their 2008 cap for the difference. If it is more, then the Patriots 2008 cap will be debited for the difference.

We know that Moss reached his NLTBE incentives. We also do know that Stallworth did not reach his NLTBE incentives. We also know that Eckel did not reach his LTBE incentives.
Nice work. I am assuming that Pro Bowl and Super Bowl incentives are not included in the above, and obviously some of those have been earned and some could still be. Any ideas on what that list would be?
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:44 PM   #2
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Nice work. I am assuming that Pro Bowl and Super Bowl incentives are not included, and obviously some of those have been earned and some could still be. Any ideas on what that list would be?
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:47 PM   #3
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Nice work. I am assuming that Pro Bowl and Super Bowl incentives are not included, and obviously some of those have been earned and some could still be. Any ideas on what that list would be?
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:48 PM   #4
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Are you counting playoff and SB bonuses?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miguel View Post
From looking at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/footb...terstitialskip

I am GUESSING that the below players had NLTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.

Evans, Heath $50,000
Gaffney, Jabar $525,000
Harrison, Rodney $250,000
Hochstein, Russ $405,000
Light, Matt $200,000
Meriweather, Brandon $1,125,000
Mitchell, Mel $750,000
Moss, Randy $2,000,000
Neal, Steve $100,000
Seau, Junior $400,000
Stallworth, Donte' $400,000
Vrabel, Mike $350,000
Washington, Kelley $2,000,000
Yates, Billy $550,000
Total of $9,105,000
I am GUESSING that the below players had LTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.
Seau, Junior $100,000
Vrabel, Mike $500,000
Eckel, Kyle Eckel $5,600,000
Total of $6.2 million

If the amount of reached NLTBE and reached LTBE incentives is less than $6.2 million, then the Patriots will get a credit on their 2008 cap for the difference. If it is more, then the Patriots 2008 cap will be debited for the difference.

We know that Moss reached his NLTBE incentives. We also do know that Stallworth did not reach his NLTBE incentives. We also know that Eckel did not reach his LTBE incentives.
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Are you counting playoff and SB bonuses?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miguel View Post
From looking at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/footb...terstitialskip

I am GUESSING that the below players had NLTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.

Evans, Heath $50,000
Gaffney, Jabar $525,000
Harrison, Rodney $250,000
Hochstein, Russ $405,000
Light, Matt $200,000
Meriweather, Brandon $1,125,000
Mitchell, Mel $750,000
Moss, Randy $2,000,000
Neal, Steve $100,000
Seau, Junior $400,000
Stallworth, Donte' $400,000
Vrabel, Mike $350,000
Washington, Kelley $2,000,000
Yates, Billy $550,000
Total of $9,105,000
I am GUESSING that the below players had LTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.
Seau, Junior $100,000
Vrabel, Mike $500,000
Eckel, Kyle Eckel $5,600,000
Total of $6.2 million

If the amount of reached NLTBE and reached LTBE incentives is less than $6.2 million, then the Patriots will get a credit on their 2008 cap for the difference. If it is more, then the Patriots 2008 cap will be debited for the difference.

We know that Moss reached his NLTBE incentives. We also do know that Stallworth did not reach his NLTBE incentives. We also know that Eckel did not reach his LTBE incentives.
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Nice work. I am assuming that Pro Bowl and Super Bowl incentives are not included, and obviously some of those have been earned and some could still be. Any ideas on what that list would be?
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Nice work. I am assuming that Pro Bowl and Super Bowl incentives are not included in the above, and obviously some of those have been earned and some could still be. Any ideas on what that list would be?
The only players that I know what their incentives consist of are Stallworth and Moss.

Stallworth's incentives started at 70 receptions.
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From looking at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/footb...terstitialskip

I am GUESSING that the below players had NLTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.

Evans, Heath $50,000
Gaffney, Jabar $525,000
Harrison, Rodney $250,000
Hochstein, Russ $405,000
Light, Matt $200,000
Meriweather, Brandon $1,125,000
Mitchell, Mel $750,000
Moss, Randy $2,000,000
Neal, Steve $100,000
Seau, Junior $400,000
Stallworth, Donte' $400,000
Vrabel, Mike $350,000
Washington, Kelley $2,000,000
Yates, Billy $550,000
Total of $9,105,000
I am GUESSING that the below players had LTBE incentives regarding their 2007 performance.
Seau, Junior $100,000
Vrabel, Mike $500,000
Eckel, Kyle Eckel $5,600,000
Total of $6.2 million

If the amount of reached NLTBE and reached LTBE incentives is less than $6.2 million, then the Patriots will get a credit on their 2008 cap for the difference. If it is more, then the Patriots 2008 cap will be debited for the difference.

We know that Moss reached his NLTBE incentives. We also do know that Stallworth did not reach his NLTBE incentives. We also know that Eckel did not reach his LTBE incentives.
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Update - Mike Reiss wrote this about Meriweather's contract - "The contract also includes $1.025 million in incentives that Meriweather almost certainly will reach."
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When was it disclosed that Kyle Eckel had $5.6 million in incentives?

And is it assumed that he'd need to be a productive starter for him to achieve that?

I think I recall some mention of that being added in December - but I'm still unclear on why a player or team views it beneficial to add incentives that won't be reached in the middle of a season
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