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Old 01-07-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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Hi,

I've been lurking here for a fews and finally decided to post. Great site.

I'm not really sure why Bob Sanders was voted DPOY.

In previous years, a players defensive statistics played a large factor in determining the DPOY. But not this year.

I think sanders is a great player but his stats are very pedestrian at best.

Tackles 96 33rd
Sacks 3.5 87th
Passes Defensed 8 113th
FF 0 336th
INT 2 71st

I know Sanders has a big impact on his team. I just think someone else deserved the award (maybe Kerney I dunno).
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:37 PM   #2
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I was thinking Mario Williams, Demarcus Ware or Patrick Willis myself.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:41 PM   #3
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Sanders is the most important defensive player ON HIS TEAM, which shouldn't be the same thing as the most important in the NFL....just my opinion of course. Boomer is on EEI right now saying he voted for him because "he's the best tackler out there and such a difference maker to his team".
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:42 PM   #4
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Like what was said in the other thread about "dissing" and the english laguage, Sanders numbers are very impressive, but you can't just worship stats like that. Without Sanders the Colts defense goes from being mediocre and porous against the run, to a top 5 defense IMO.
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The award doesn't go to the person with the best stats.
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Sanders winning DPOY might be the biggest joke I ever heard. There are plenty of DE's and LB's in the league that were way more deserving of the award than Sanders. Patrick Kerney who finished second derserved it more than Sanders. Kerney is an animal. There were games when Sanders was a no factor in games, where in all games Kerney was a game changer and play maker.
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There is no one else even close to worthy of DPOY. Sanders is a terrifying player for opposing offenses. You can't really say anything else about him other than the fact that he is just dominating. I can't think of anyone else who you would even put in the same category this season.
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I don't think he should be DPOY here's his stats compared to anothers safety:

15 games started 96 tkls 3.5 sacks 0 ff 2 Ints 6 pass defensed
11 games started 68 tkls 2 sacks 1 ff 1 int 7 pass defensed

I don't see a case for one when the other is part of the first team to go Undefeated team in a 16 game scheduled season including against the other guy's team where the othe guy didn't show up other than one play(Rodney had that 1 pick in this game and shut Clark down). Now don't get me wrong I don't think Rodney deserves the DPOY award for no other reason than the HGH but nether does Sanders
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I don't think he should be DPOY here's his stats compared to anothers safety:

15 games started 96 tkls 3.5 sacks 0 ff 2 Ints 6 pass defensed
11 games started 68 tkls 2 sacks 1 ff 1 int 7 pass defensed

I don't see a case for one when the other is part of the first team to go Undefeated team in a 16 game scheduled season including against the other guy's team where the othe guy didn't show up other than one play(Rodney had that 1 pick in this game and shut Clark down). Now don't get me wrong I don't think Rodney deserves the DPOY award for no other reason than the HGH but nether does Sanders
It's not just about stats though, he makes it more dangerous to go over the middle, stuffs the run well and can pressure the QB. Teams gameplan to avoid him, which is why numbers are misleading.
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I think its a joke to name Sanders Defensive Player of the Year.
What he does is play the role he is asked to. That role means that he is often asked to come up and make tackles in a scheme that leaves him unblocked. He does a good job of it, but is merely making the plays the defensive call says he should.
To say the Colt defense is the difference between top 5 and awful because of him is silly. The only evidence of that is that they were awful with an without him last year, and there improvement HAPPENED to coincide with him getting back on the field. What Bob Sanders does is not at all unique. Many defenses have run that type of system, and many safeties have been better at it. If Bob Sanders deserves DPOY then Rodney Harrison should have had about 6 of them when he was in SD. He did EXACTLY the same thing, but in his case he was making 120 tackles.
The truth is that IMO Sanders is very overrated because he is 5'8" so somehow him doing gets more value attached to it than someone else doing it.
Safeties DO NOT control the running game. In the event they are making a lot of tackles in the running game it is due to scheme, and either the fact that the rest of the D isn't doing their job (lots of tackles after big gains) or that they are doing their job, and they control the los, creating the opportunity for the free man to come and make a tackle.
The improvement in the Colts run D is absolutely not about Bob Sanders, but about the other 10 guys.
The Colts have built a good defense. Its kind of insulting to me that the guy who picks up the scraps from the other 10 guys playing much better than they did during 2006, is getting all of the credit when his role is small part of what has happened.
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