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Old 01-03-2008, 08:01 PM   #31
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More...we need the big picture from you. This comment, such as it is, gives us nothing. It says nothing for you, nothing about you.

We need more.
No, we don't. Who give a crap about him?
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:22 PM   #32
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Its hard to believe the Newspaper that brought us Woody Paige could sink this low.*



*sarcasm
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:31 PM   #33
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Its hard to believe the Newspaper that brought us Woody Paige could sink this low.*



*sarcasm
Woody may be out there, but he seems to keep an objective view (not always anti-Pats) unlike the other knuckle heads (including Smith) on the Horn ...
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:32 PM   #34
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Makes you appreciate even the Globe.

This just shows how sportswriting may be in a newspaper, but is held to such minimal standards of journalism.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:38 PM   #35
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This guy needs a hug....and a punch in the face!

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...9?source=email
How 'bout a Donkey punch ?!?!
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:56 PM   #36
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Its hard to believe the Newspaper that brought us Woody Paige could sink this low.*



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That's not all.

This paper expects the Nuggets to win 60 games this year!

'Course, they didn't say too much about that right after the Celts edged them by 40 a couple of months ago....
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Making deferred payments = Violating the salary cap.

(I.e., We can't pay you all the money you want this year b/c of the SALARY CAP, but we will be able to make future payments to you that will equal the present value of the amount you wanted this year).

These were side agreements that were not disclosed in the contracts submitted to the league. Why not? B/c they violated the SALARY CAP.

Whatever their motivation to do it (cash flow, etc.), it clearly gave them a distinct advantage vis a vis the salary cap by allowing them to keep their two stars - Elway and Davis - at deflated salary cap numbers while secretly paying them well in excess of those numbers. Do you not see this?
That's what you don't understand, the money owed to Elway and Davis in 1998 was reported to the league and counted against the cap. Bowlen asked Elway and Davis to defer the bonuses owed to them in order to pay the salaries of the administrative staff and up front costs of Invesco.

Understandably, the league has a problem with this type of accounting, as it could lead to problems, and the last thing they want is to see a team start running their rosters in the red. The NFL ruled the Broncos didn't receive a competitive advantage from the move, but did break the rules that they put in place to keep solvency on the balance books. They don't want to see a small market team deferring payments and then one year have to declare bankruptcy because their revenue isn't covering what they owe.
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While I think that you have a valid case against any nefarious activity, Denver did still violate a league rule, just like NE.

And, just like Denver, the league stated that NE gained no competetive advantage from the filming.

If you are OK with one, you must be OK with the other and vice versa.
I personally didn't care.

The Spygate thing was so overblown because sign stealing is such an easy thing to defend against. It's like crying in warfare because the enemy intercepted your messages.
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That's what you don't understand, the money owed to Elway and Davis in 1998 was reported to the league and counted against the cap. Bowlen asked Elway and Davis to defer the bonuses owed to them in order to pay the salaries of the administrative staff and up front costs of Invesco.

Understandably, the league has a problem with this type of accounting, as it could lead to problems, and the last thing they want is to see a team start running their rosters in the red. The NFL ruled the Broncos didn't receive a competitive advantage from the move, but did break the rules that they put in place to keep solvency on the balance books. They don't want to see a small market team deferring payments and then one year have to declare bankruptcy because their revenue isn't covering what they owe.
That sounds just like video-gate! No competitive advantage, but a rule was broken...yup, same thing!
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The first part of the article was inoffensive filler.

It got REALLY stupid when he said the Pats were soft, and would get demolished by the tough teams of olden days.
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