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italian pat patriot · 01-04-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Patsgofor4

I was only 2 at the time but my father tells me the story of the game at least twice during every football season. There were apparently 2 other plays while the Pats were on offense late in the 4th quarter that were also memorable...in a bad way...for Pats fans.

1. Russ Francis got both arms pinned at his side while trying to catch a pass and no pass interference call was made.

2. Sam Bam ran out of bounds on 3rd down 2 yards yards from the stick instead of plowing ahead for a 1st down that would have won the sealed the win, as the Raiders never would have had the ball again.

I didn't even see the game and it still pisses me off. Looking at the roster, that team was loaded.

i read a lot on point 2; San Bam should have close that down (damn...)
i would have really be happy if our franchise got a Super Bowl also in Sullivan hera

flasox27 · 01-04-2008, 07:33 AM

After that play by Sam Bam Cunningham, I had no more respect for him as a player.

italian pat patriot · 01-04-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flasox27

After that play by Sam Bam Cunningham, I had no more respect for him as a player.

so i can imagine it was a 'bad play'...

pity...

Mack Herron · 01-04-2008, 07:47 AM

That was a terrible play, but Sam Bam was a terrific back. Kevin Faulk had a nearly identical play this year. I would not be too hard on him, being human and all. Brady threw an interception in the AFC Championship.

italian pat patriot · 01-04-2008, 08:07 AM

probably if we would hv won the Super Bowl in '76 we could have had a very good 'period' for some years due to the talent we had on that team

very very sad...

godef · 01-04-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanfrom1960

Pat, I did a search using Sugar Bear Hamilton, Kenny Stabler, Ben Dreith, 1976 Oakland Raiders - New England Patriots playoff, and a few other keywords on Youtube, and nothing came up. To describe it, Sugar Bear comes in with one hand and arm high and he hits Stabler, maybe in the helmet, but there was no hitting opposing player on the helmet penalty back then. It was definitely after the ball was gone. I remember when I saw it on TV, it was like your life flashing in front of your eyes:

1. They shouldn't call a penalty on that.
2. The way they've been calling stuff all game, they probably will call it.
3. Oh, *****!

Why do you have such a desire to see this infamous play? After that, and the Patriots losing, I drank so much red wine my wife threw me out of the house.

To clarify, yes the ball was gone, but it was close enough that Hamilton's hit affected the pass. It was a desperation heave that fell harmlessly short of its intended target. Hamilton's hit was rough enough that I think it would have been a legit late-hit call if Stabler had completed his follow through, but the key was, it was close enough that it affected the pass which made it a legitimate hit.

godef · 01-04-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Double G

We didn't exactly "stomp" the Steelers that year, we won on a last second missed FG by the Steelers, who were banged up pretty good at the time with quite afew injuries.

That last second field goal was from only 30 yards out, and it would have tied the score at 30.

Yup, the Steelers were banged up, but it was an early season game AT Pittsburgh, and really set the Pats flying. The very next game was the Oakland stomping.

godef · 01-04-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by italian pat patriot

probably if we would hv won the Super Bowl in '76 we could have had a very good 'period' for some years due to the talent we had on that team

very very sad...

Nah, the Sullivans would have found some way to screw it up. The players probably would have demanded even bigger contracts, and Chuckie would have puked.

God bless Robert Kraft. OK, and the salary cap.

Not surprised you can't find anything on Youtube, though. I have searched all over the internet for a copy of this game for the same reason as you desire to see that play, and have come up empty. I do have a copy of the MNF game vs the Jets that season, so the technology was there. But keep asking, and perhaps someone will sneak it on there from the SB36 DVD.

If the NFL has anything in its archives, I think they would have a gold mine. I wish they would clean up and start releasing classic games on DVD. What have they got to lose?

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 01-04-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by flasox27

After that play by Sam Bam Cunningham, I had no more respect for him as a player.

Exactly.
He was dead to me when he did that. Dead to me.

Then the Russ Francis play where the LB grabbed both biceps and the ball bounced off his chest with no PI call.

Culminating in Ben "Osama" Dreith's absurd RTP call. I have a friend who jumped up, smashed the coffee table into smithereens driving his aged Italian grandmother into a frightened frenzy of excited Italian screaming. She had no clue as to what had provoked her mild mannered 245 LB grandson into a fury.

italian pat patriot · 01-04-2008, 09:56 AM

what a game must have been...

as far i read about it all our players were more or less furious, crazy at the end of the game