Players not caving on 18-game schedule, major reason for potential lockout - Page 6 - New England Patriots Forums

Fencer · 01-12-2011, 11:21 AM

The point on injuries is cumulative banging on the same guys. Since different people play in preseason than in the regular season, different people also get hurt.

Anyhow, an obvious compromise is to keep the season at 16 games but drag out the season more weeks with more byes. That lets TV revenue go up, even if it does forgo some stadium revenue upside.

***Wolfpack*** · 01-12-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cupofjoe1962

You guys made a lot of good points for the 16 game season.

As a season ticket holder, I hate buying 2 preseason games, so
I do not have a problem with the 18 game regular season with 2 buy weeks.

We would then have the superbowl on the Sunday before
Presidents day and most people would have the day after the superbowl
off as a holiday.

If there is a lock out it will only be a matter of time before the
players cave. Quite a few of the players are big spenders and if they start missing checks, I am sure they will re-think their position.

Remember the replacement players?
Week after week more veterans crossed the line and joined the scabs
until the union caved and the owners won.

If there is a lockout, the league can't go out and hire replacement players setting up a situation where current players cross the line.

***Wolfpack*** · 01-12-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moosekill

What is really happening, for all of you people with no clue about negotiations, is the owners want to expand to 18 games and do it for the minimum cost. The players have no problem playing 18 games they just want to get the maximum payment for doing it. Its called negotiations. The unions want to get expanded rosters so they can have more members.

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1. I was about to make an identical post but I read yours and you said it perfectly.

When you are negotiating these types of contracts, you make every single proposal your opponent makes sound like the greatest hardship of all time so you can get the maximum concessions from them in order to get you to go along with it.

***Wolfpack*** · 01-12-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coolworx

Most aren't millionares.
Most have 3 seasons of relative obscurity, at best.

And as much as the hype machine may be "driven" by the NFL, make NO MISTAKE, that it's the effort by the players that puts meat on that bone.

I think the owners should make a return of no more than 7% - and everything else should be divied up by the WORKERS.

7% of what? Total revenue? Net value of the franchise?

***Wolfpack*** · 01-12-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaScotiaPatsFan

Can we start a Recall Goodell movement or something? This guy is killing the game...

You may not like him, but you need to join us in the real world. The NFL is more popular now than it has ever been and it completely blows away all other sports. To say Goodell is "killing the game" is just ridiculous.

***Wolfpack*** · 01-12-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyBranch39

I'm not sure which I'd hate more: A lockout or an 18-game season. The former, I guess... but not by much.

Well I got some bad news for ya: They're both coming.

TrueBeliever · 01-12-2011, 01:59 PM

Here's what I don't like:

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The NFL wants to add two games to the current 16-game format for the regular season, and eliminate two of four preseason games, saying fans would prefer that and more revenue could be generated.

Now don't get me wrong, I know the purpose of any business is to make money, but come on, are any of the owners hurting? Are any of them in danger of not making their mortgage payment?!

This constant push for more and more money is getting out of hand and has only gotten worse since Goodell took over. The league is as popular as ever these days, I'm sure it's gone beyond the wildest dreams of those guys who huddled in the back room of a car dealership in Canton back in 1920 or whenever. Maybe if they worried about finding ways to improve things for the fans, they wouldn't have to worry so bloody much about more and more money. Instead they could focus on making sure the fan base keeps coming back for more.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I think a work stoppage could be the best thing for the league because hopefully it would take everyone (i.e. the owners and the players) down a notch or two. Maybe then they'd be happy just to have the golden goose instead of constantly b****ing about how many eggs it lays.