Kdo5

Pereira needs to **** off. Especially with this little quote,

“I’m sure it’s no consolation to the many Raiders fans around the country.”

So says the same man whose officials SCREWED us in Denver. And the same man who continually defended bogus calls against the Pats.

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patsfaninpittsburgh

Did he say anything about bringing back face guarding?

Perhaps he should because it seems to get called in big games.

PatsWickedPissah

Great post

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sarge

I caught that too.

When the tuck rule was called in the Chiefs game and they showed the Replay, Phill Simms said

Phill Sims "You know, after looking at both replays (Chiefs tuck rule and Patriots in Raider game), both plays have something else in common. Both QB's where hit in the head."

I had thought that very night of the Tuck rule what Poetic justice it would have been had they just thrown the flag for Roughing the Passer.

The irony would have been awesome. That whole day on ESPN before the Pats Raiders game they kept showing the replay of the Sugar Bear Hamilton hit on Stabler that drew the bogus roughing the Passer call.

By todays rules, yes the Sugar Bear Hamilton hit would have been roughing the passer because his hand did hit Stablers helmet. The problem is hitting a QB in the head with your hand was not against the rules in 1976.

And I don't want to hear any crap about it being late. Hamilton's hit actually altered the path of the ball so there was no way it was late.

40yrpatsfan

Worst call in playoff history, given its timing in the final minute of a game and the fact that it basically awarded the Raiders a winning TD. Pats would have won the SB that year, they were that good.

seven

That was brutal.

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Sure is like the good old days, noisy
whinging about about the Pats winning.

I am so psyched, and I will be 200 miles away on a couch.
I don't know how the players sleep.

Kdo5

Was this face guarding incident form the AFCCG? I'm not sure but I thought there was a bogus call on Ellis Hobbs (or Asante?) because he was turned away from the ball.

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PatriotsReign

I agree. The assumption is that the motion of "tucking the ball" is the same as a forward pass. Once the ball has been "tucked away", any fumble is an official fumble.

Whether throwing a pass or moving the ball forward to tuck it away is the exact same motion. If the tuck rule didn't exist then we'd have numerous debates on whether or not the QB was intending to throw the ball or tuck it. This way, there is nothing to debate.

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upstater1

But, if he begins to re**** it (ie bring his arm back up) then it's a fumble.

upstater1

There is a huge flaw to the tuck rule that isn't often mentioned.

Have you ever seen a QB begin to move his arm forward but the ball slips out of his hand and goes backward as he's being hit?

That's often ruled a fumble.

According to the tuck rule, it shouldn't be.

I'd be OK with them eliminating the rule depending on the trajectory of the ball. If the ball is flung forward, then it's a pass, but if it drops to the ground or otherwise goes waggy or something then it's a fumble. Refs would again have to use their judgment.