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RussFrancis · 12-30-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FrontSeven

What? I said, WHAT?

RussFrancis, you have lost your mind. If you're going to use FLAKEY logic like how important the catches are based upon the team's record, why not calculate how unimportant they were on a Randy Moss team?

I mean, come on, what the hell kind of logic is that? This is about stats, not about who played for whom. Who scored more points and who caught more yardage, etc. is all that matters.

First, those #s are cited for Housh in that game were a little off. I meant to identify them as the 5 catches he had on the final scoring drive. Anyway.

But you think Houshmanzadeh was a more valuable and more significant player to his team this year than Welker? Seriously? I was only referencing those TJ #s because I found them hilarious that leading the league in catches was obviously that important to either him or that team. But in real and somewhat intangible football terms, as far as who had the better and more significant year, its Welker over Housh here and its not close, imo. All that guy had were #s. Welker played a HUGE part in making this New England offense virtually indefensible. Im not sure what angle you were taking there with your logic.

scott99 · 12-30-2007, 06:59 PM

The Pro Bowl is garbage, but that being said, when was the last time a guy was either first or second in receptions (at the time of the voting), and DIDN'T make the Pro Bowl. Bottom line, Welker got screwed and deserved to be in.

Ishdul · 12-30-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RussFrancis

First, those #s are cited for Housh in that game were a little off. I meant to identify them as the 5 catches he had on the final scoring drive. Anyway.

But you think Houshmanzadeh was a more valuable and more significant player to his team this year than Welker? Seriously? I was only referencing those TJ #s because I found them hilarious that leading the league in catches was obviously that important to either him or that team. But in real and somewhat intangible football terms, as far as who had the better and more significant year, its Welker over Housh here and its not close, imo. All that guy had were #s. Welker played a HUGE part in making this New England offense virtually indefensible. Im not sure what angle you were taking there with your logic.

That's silly. Housh's catches meant less because the Bengals suck at everything besides WR. Considering they still won 7 games (i.e. bad but not horrible) pretty much with their passing game alone it's pretty stupid to say his contributions weren't important.

Chad Johnson should've went ahead of Housh anyways and they should have more than 4 WRs.

RussFrancis · 12-30-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishdul

That's silly. Housh's catches meant less because the Bengals suck at everything besides WR. Considering they still won 7 games (i.e. bad but not horrible) pretty much with their passing game alone it's pretty stupid to say his contributions weren't important.

Chad Johnson should've went ahead of Housh anyways and they should have more than 4 WRs.

We'll agree to disagree. But you think Johnson should be a Pro Bowler? For what? For pouting all season during losses? For breaking out Hall of Fame Jackets after TDs? For getting all over his QB after miscommunications that lead to picks? For contributing to big wins? Or for none of the above?

Like I said, Welker is a Pro Bowler this year. He should be. Guys that get worthless stats on bad teams shouldnt be rewarded with trips to Hawaii. Guys that contribute to undefeated seasons and all time records should.