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Old 01-04-2011, 08:52 AM   #1
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According to Forbes magazine, we have the most cost efficient team based on 2010-2011 season salary per win.

The Most And Least Cost-Effective NFL Teams - SportsMoney - news on the business of sports - Forbes

On the one hand I want to say "Yeah!"

On the other hand, I think the premise of the article may be patently ridiculous. First off, whatever team has the most wins is likely to be most efficient based soley on that. Secondly, is the writer simply looking at money paid this year in a vaccuum? If all teams are spending to the cap, then they are all technically spending the same amount of money, but are doing so more or less in different years.

Maybe someone with more expertise can set me straight if I am wrong.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:20 AM   #2
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According to Forbes magazine, we have the most cost efficient team based on 2010-2011 season salary per win.

The Most And Least Cost-Effective NFL Teams - SportsMoney - news on the business of sports - Forbes

On the one hand I want to say "Yeah!"

On the other hand, I think the premise of the article may be patently ridiculous. First off, whatever team has the most wins is likely to be most efficient based soley on that. Secondly, is the writer simply looking at money paid this year in a vaccuum? If all teams are spending to the cap, then they are all technically spending the same amount of money, but are doing so more or less in different years.

Maybe someone with more expertise can set me straight if I am wrong.
It's a no brainer. they managed to put together a 14 win season with most of the players still on rookie contracts.

If that worked all the time nobody would ever get a good contract, but it doesn't.

It's an anomaly. I would guess they are close to twice as efficient as everyone else. Wait a few years til some of these contracts run out, they'll be scrambling.

I can't figure out the cap vs actual money, but just use common sense.Signed Brady, Wilfork and Bodden. That's it, as far as I'm concerned, two great vets and hopefully another good one.

Other than that they avoided big Sey contract, picked up a serviceable Branch right in stride and let Seattle take that long term hit. Pretty much have everyone else on rookie contracts or pretty good market deals including Mankins for now.

Part cyclical (they'll have to reup some of these youngsters), part system (patience, patience, patience) part incredible draft management and coaching leadership never before seen coaching up the kids.
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3rd lowest salary in the league? Further proof that COTY should not even be a discussion
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I assume they're talking about actual cash paid out, which is a very different issue from the salary cap, and shows a lot of year-to-year variance.
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Miguel has us over 130m. He's the man. What's this Forbes magazine thing?
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what is our cap space situation like?

theoretically we are going to be absorbing two first rounders into the team this year, does that leave room to resign key people?
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theoretically we are going to be absorbing two first rounders into the team this year, does that leave room to resign key people?
No cap this year. Now, you have to carry my pads back to the locker Rook.
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No cap this year. Now, you have to carry my pads back to the locker Rook.
ha, but it is likely it will be implemented again when a cba comes to fruition, hence why we didnt do a jets and go all out win now and reap sadness when we have to trade away our roster.
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Although there was no cap this year, the league sure operated as if there was a cap. And a lower cap than the year before.

The inability of players like Logan Mankins to cash in - the prime source of large contracts - constrained payrolls. Further, even in the absence of a cap, no team broke the bank like the Yankees or Red Sox.

If they look at just cash paid out, as noted, that's not a valid view. In a salary cap -- or salary caplike -- system, the salary structure should be pretty similar and the team with the most wins is 'the most efficient.'

Nothing to see here.

Where this gets interesting is baseball. There you can have a 100-win team look terribly inefficient, and a 70-win team look very efficient. When you have team salaries varying between $40mm and $200mm, the analysis shows interesting outliers.
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No cap this year. Now, you have to carry my pads back to the locker Rook.
Dez Bryant doesn't carry pads. Dez Bryant only catches the damn football. Why doesn't stupid QB throw ball to Dez Bryant more? Dez Bryant is STAR!
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