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Old 12-24-2007, 09:11 AM   #11
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Average right now. I hope he can improve next season
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:16 AM   #12
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nothing wrong with ellis. he is a decent #2, and he will step up to a serviceable #1 next year.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:13 AM   #13
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He is average at best, I would rather see Gay starting at the #2 spot. He gets burned way too many times for TD's.
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I may be wrong here but I don't think the TD he gave up was all Hobb's fault. I think Merriweather was suppose to cover deep out where as Hobb's primary role was slant in. Merriweather looked like he bit on playaction and was way out of position.

But I would think Hobb's is at little above average. He doesn't have ints but he always is around the ball and does break up his share of passes. If qbs throw enough pass towards any CBs direction, they are bound to make some completion. With Samuels on other side and him having rep as top CB, Hobbs gets picked on far more than average NFL CBs, thus making him look pretty bad at times.
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Hobbs is regressing as a player. I used to think he could be a very good player, and had gotten into arguments with some friends who thought he stunk. He played well in the AFCCG last year, but I think that's masked some of his deficincies. I've never seen a corner play so far off a reciever at the line of scrimage. He seems to get toasted a lot, and never looks very fluid when the ball is thrown to his reciever. He's average at best.
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Sorry but I can't drink the koolaid on this one. Hobbs looks like a mediocre corner that gets burned fairly frequently. Maybe there's a reason that defenses decide to test Hobbs instead of Samuel... it's called attacking the weakest link in the defense. Sometimes I wonder if Gay wouldn't fare better out there. The Pats need to sign a decent FA corner or draft one to develop in 2008.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:40 AM   #17
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I think Hobbs is a solid #2 corner. He's good in coverage and thats the most important thing. He has some lapses, but what corner doesn't ?

If I have a been with him its that he could be better against the run. But the Hobbs bashers should realize there are plenty of plays where the coverage is tight on his side of the field. Do you think all of our sacks are due to pash rush? I would say a good percentage of them are coverage sacks, and I don't see Hobbs getting a lot of help in coverage, none more than anyone else would on this defense.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:43 AM   #18
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What do you guys think of him? Is he a Good #2 CB or just average?

Rate him.
A good way to rate anyone is to imagine if he was available on the open
market & speculate how many teams would jump on him. I would say quite a
few. He is young and it's frustrating to see him get beat (badly some times) but
the last time I looked young corners tend to get treated badly in the NFL.

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Old 12-24-2007, 10:46 AM   #19
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IMO, he plays too far off the receiver.
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Hobbs is regressing as a player. I used to think he could be a very good player, and had gotten into arguments with some friends who thought he stunk. He played well in the AFCCG last year, but I think that's masked some of his deficincies. I've never seen a corner play so far off a reciever at the line of scrimage. He seems to get toasted a lot, and never looks very fluid when the ball is thrown to his reciever. He's average at best.
Sure you did - you saw Asante Samuel playing that far off and getting abused in 2005 until they replaced Starks with that rookie corner Hobbs and the secondary started to perform better...you've just let his 2006 4th year performance blank out the bad Asante memories.

BTW they play the scheme they are told to. If you have a problem with that, your problem is with Pees and Belichick. Ellis takes a lot of hits on here for being the last line of defense when 2 or 3 other guys blow assignments or because zebras can't decide amongst themselves what constitutes PI from one game to the next.
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